[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: A lost opportunity

  • From: "Steve Grainger" <hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "mgolant@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <mgolant@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, sally@xxxxxxxxxxx, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2005 12:04:19 -0500

I have been deleting most for the last few weeks..so I must have missed
that post.I only remember the one where the ADMIN closed the discussion
about elections a couple of months ago..with a no further discussion
warning. Can someone send me the post that stated we could discuss it
again?..Candidates..if you read this..why aren't you out there campaigning?
LOL! C.Grainger


> [Original Message]
> From: <mgolant@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <sally@xxxxxxxxxxx>;
<showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: 8/23/2005 11:35:37 AM
> Subject: RE: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: A lost opportunity
>
>
> Yes, we can.  Showgsd-l most definitely DOES allow for this, so long as
there are not personal attacks or other rule violation.  We most definitely
CAN discuss the elections....candidates CAN  let us know their positions on
issues important to their constituents...
>
> Please, feel free.  The List Management posred on this issue weeks ago -
so long as the posts are civil, they are most definitely permitted.
>
> Margery Golant
> Showgsd-l Administrator 
>
>
> On 8/23/05 at 11:54:32 AM, : "Steve Grainger"<hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
>
>       
> ...<snip>
>
> On the current List..we can't discuss the elections..candidates can't let
us know their positions on issues important to their constituents...The new
list I have in mind..will allow  for this...we have many who apparently
don't know the candidates..yet we
>     limited what can be discussed on this List..further alienating the
people
>     who would like to know who they are voting for. We have non-members
>     influencing the outcome of important issues in the GSDCA.. I am sure
the
>     "We can't" will prevail...I already sense it...any thought of
progression
>     in the GSDCA looks to be a lost cause..or is somehow perceived as a
threat.
>     In my world..I can't imagine that anyone thinking that 5.00 a month
to help
>     support our breed is too much...however..in todays world..we need
>     incentives..it isn't enough unfortunately for people just to want to
belong
>     for the sake of supporting the breed..everyone "wants" something for
their
>     money...I am trying to think of creative ways to give them more bang
for
>     their buck...any input form the "WE CANS..would be
appreciated..C.Grainger 
>     
>     
>     > [Original Message]
>     > From: <mgolant@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>     > To: <hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <sally@xxxxxxxxxxx>;
>     <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>     > Date: 8/23/2005 10:14:44 AM
>     > Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: A lost opportunity
>     >
>     >
>     > With all due respect, that's impossible for a number of reasons: it
is
>     impossible to contain the discussions, it is impossible to have almost
>     parallel lists without major impact, it is impossible to manage
multiple
>     lists independently, and it is impossible for the List to 'stay as it
is..'
>     >
>     > Margy Golant
>     >
>     >
>     > -----Original Message-----
>     >     From: "Steve Grainger"<hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>     >     Sent: 8/23/05 11:03:19 AM
>     >     To: "sally@xxxxxxxxxxx"<sally@xxxxxxxxxxx>,
>     "showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"<showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>     >     Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: A lost opportunity
>     >       Sally...this is where the concept of a GSDCA List comes
>     forth...again  for
>     >     the hundredth time..the current List will stay as it
>     >     is..education..brags..handling...whatever we discuss will stay
the
>     >     same..with the exception information pertinent to the
GSDCA...are you
>     >     saying that you would not tap into a GSDCA List to find out PC
>     information
>     >     as a PC member? what are your suggestions for increasing
membership
>     and
>     >     membership benefits?..I have offered some progressive ideas for
>     improvement
>     >     that most have received quite well..I realize it is a departure
from
>     the
>     >     usual grind of "this club is going to Hell in a hand basket"
but I and
>     >     others are  offering  insightful ideas to provoke thought,
positive
>     >     discussion and get people motivated to  participate in taking
the club
>     >     forward...We ARE the GSDCA..the GSDCA is not some obscure
>     organization made
>     >     up of  other people..if it goes to hell..then we are
responsible for
>     its
>     >     demise..so we can either work together for improvement..or
wallow in
>     self
>     >     pity..what's it going to be?C.Grainger
>     >     
>     >     
>     >     > [Original Message]
>     >     > From: <sally@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>     >     > To: <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>     >     > Date: 8/23/2005 7:03:42 AM
>     >     > Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: A lost opportunity
>     >     >
>     >     > Without this list I doubt the majority of PC members would
know
>     what is
>     >     going on in the club .
>     >     > With out this list pc members would basically not have any
say in
>     the
>     >     club at all.
>     >     >
>     >     > sally
>     >     >
>     >     >
>     >     >
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