[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: A life....That's the problem?
- From: Lyn Chernak <cherlyngsd@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: pmick12@xxxxxxxxxxx, showgsd-l <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 7 May 2011 12:56:10 -0700 (PDT)
When I came into this breed just about 30 years ago, there were 3 kinds of
GSD's
being shown at AKC event. The "All Breed Shepherds", the "Specialty" shepherd
and the "obedience dog" and you didn't mix them unless you wanted to waste your
money. And the unwritten rating of the three was that the Specialty dog was the
best you could have to show, the all breed types were mediocre and would never
win in the specialty ring because they weren't "extreme movers" and then last
but not least were the "obedience dogs". Many of these came from breeders who
felt the puppy was not worthy for any conformation ring, but definitely could
be
shown in obedience since the dogs there are not judged on structure.
Moving forward when soft ears, splayed feet, down on pasterns, soft backs, shy
dogs, cow-hocks, mish mashers .... were out there being shown, but were extreme
movers, it was said to show under "breeder judges" because of the forgiveness
they had over the all breed judges that wanted to see good temperament, erect
ears, clean coming and going and good feet. So the separation continued. If
this
is sounding bad it's because there was enough of this out there that even the
pet people or novice GSD shopper noticed the difference between AB and
Specialty
type and would question ...WHY??? (And believe me I know there are those that
can be shown in all rings and win but that's not the majority.)
Time goes forward, the obedience person wants a GSD with great temperament and
stamina to endure 2 and 3 day weekend shows, the 36" high jump (which has now
been lowered) and the stress of showing. They want more drive and a medium
sized
dog so they purchase dogs from across the pond.
New people coming in don't want to show in conformation for whatever the
reason,
the expense, the lack of owner handler opportunities or the fact that a
Championship title to them is not that important, so they buy the type that
they
see in other areas they think they may want to try with their GSD.
Has there been an alienation of this breed, among the breed? Most definitely.
I would say that a supported entry of 5/1 1/0 is definitely a wake-up call, but
there will be those of you out there that will continue to come up with various
excuses as to why that happened.
Lyn Chernak
CherLyn Shepherds - Updated June 06,2010
http://www.cherlynshepherds.com
Three Generations ~ GSDCA 13 Club ~ Membership
CherLyn's Dixie, BH, CDX, RAE, TC, HIC, CGC
Ulric vomKriegerhaus, RN, TC, CGC
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From: Peggy <pmick12@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: showgsd-l <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sat, May 7, 2011 11:49:59 AM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: A life....That's the problem?
.......
The stigma that seems to exist in Shepherds is that a win at a specialty
is worth more than a win at an all-breed show. If you think this is unique,
think again...people in almost all breeds are very quick to advertise a win
under a breeder judge or breed specialist...we are not as unique as we like
to think. This doesn't keep those other breeds from the all breed shows,
however..and now we're suffering for that, entrywise. When you look at
the GSD results from some all breed shows, you might think "oh yuck, that
dog couldn't win at a specialty." Big deal...it might not have won at the
all breed, either, if you'd had your dogs there!
Time to wake up, folks. Look at how the numbers have gone down at
the National. People just aren't showing the way they did...it's easy to
say it's because this is a handler-dominated breed, and owners are aging
out..well, age is happening to people in other breeds, too...and the
handler-dominated thing is something we let happen...that's our fault.
As I said...take a look at how many dogs are needed for majors, esp.
5-point majors, in some other breeds, and compare the numbers to what's
required in Shepherds.
We need young blood, we need a way to make it possible for owners to show
their own dogs whenever possible, and we need to support more than just
specialties.
On top of all that, there are still people out there who think GSDs are
all cripples....because they never get to see more than one or two top
dogs.........the other good dogs, the ones that win at specialties, esp. the
National, don't go to all-breed shows.............we are NOT educating the
public, and that has to be done, or there won't be any people left who care
about the breed!
Peggy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stormy Hope" <Stormy435@xxxxxxx>
> The larger breeds have more, but not all, pro handlers. However, from
> what I've observed, most of the specialties are held in connection
> with AB shows, and the handlers show various other breeds at that same
> show. GSD handlers MOSTLY handle GSDs. Less handlers, over all, in a
> more handler dominated breed.
>
> Stormy
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