A good post is worth repeating. Again and again. Penny in NC The Farm Dog Forever ********************************** The GSD is still popular, just not in the conformation ring. The problem is not the judging, rings, etc. it is the PEOPLE. In fighting litigation, arrogance, manipulation of the breed by a handful for profit, an inability to create an illustrated breed standard with donated funds( which is now long gone) , an unwillingness to accept new people who aren't connected to the "old" people, an attitude that at specialty shows behavior that is deemed unacceptable at every other show, is acceptable at our shows, questionable business practices by breeders and handlers and a lack of accountability for those practices, etc, etc. I could on ad nauseum, ad infinitum. As long as everyone keeps looking to assign blame everywhere else be where blame should be assigned it ain't gonna get better. As for ring size..ever watch an Afghan hound move? Even a good Cocker can cover some ground. I have currently seen breeds that can out move what we are showing in GSD's so the notion that we have a corner on the market in movement is a fiction and is exactly the arrogance I was referring to above!As for judging..how is it different? Finding a good one should be the same in every breed that is judged. It is a matter of pride and as a judge I think you would want to demonstrate to the fancy that you have knowledge of not only your own breed, but in finding quality in others as well. I read a post by someone who stated that GSd people should attend more all-breed shows. Those are wise words. I learned the most about grooming and structure by not only watching GSD's but by watching other breeds and trying to evaluate and find the best ones in other breeds as well. Christine ------------------------------------------ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2014. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION: http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================