[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: A Three Judge Panel for National Specials????

  • From: Edwin Hill <edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: jastek5@xxxxxxx, freelist <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 16:48:32 -0700 (PDT)

NOT GUILTY!....I have never ever been to a "strip joint"...and I do NOT write 
for the Review..the editor's father and I have the same name, and a few years 
ago she asked me to write an occasional article for the Review...now that I am 
un-employed and lonely, and  The Jerry Spriger Show is in re-runs, I 
reluctantly decided to do it..and lol...as for me "kicking tires"...I just do 
not want to show a dog that is not competitive, my fingers are crossed that my 
Black puppy bitch from Marilee Wilkinson will be competitive..as for you 
keeping me out of trouble.well....I'm not the one that gets searched at 
airports, I'm not the one who almost always misses the plane, I'm not the one 
that has a tendency to disagree with AKC judges at the show!...yes at the Vegas 
shows the hotel manager did call the police on us ( me) and you did convince me 
to leave...but I was clearly justified....and I didn't have my new 
meds...lol....FB
jastek5@xxxxxxx wrote: Please don't let the facts get in the way of the story:
 
Like i've said before many, many times i only go with you to dog shows at the 
pleading of your wife to make sure you don't sneak off to any strip joints. So 
far, i've been able to keep you in check by keeping you at the dog show, with 
the shows rapidly dwindling in size and strip joints now being open for 24 
hours, this is becoming more and more of a challenge. 
 
The fact that we disagree on so many things only confirms my sanity and your er 
well!!!!!  
 
As to your being a handler, since you are by your own admission more of a "tire 
kicker" than an exhibitor, think of me as your caretaker, making sure you don't 
do things to hurt yourself!!!
 
I'm so glad that you think this is a good idea! It really makes me feel so 
validated!!!!! Especially now that you write for the REVIEW!!!! 
 
All that being said, from the feedback i received so far,its not a new idea, 
but it looks like the restriction is the AKC. Too bad, it makes too much 
sense!!!!!
 
Bill
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Edwin Hill <edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: jastek5@xxxxxxx; freelist <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thu, 26 May 2005 14:54:52 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: A Three Judge Panel for National Specials????

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My good friend and handler Bill Basu and I fight over just about 
everything...its funny we are such good friends, we agree on very little...I 
really like this idea...it has an Olympic feeling, you know...the high diver or 
gymnastic competitor is scored by three judges...afraid it will never work in 
dogs....but you keep on thinking Bill...spending all those nights in hotel 
rooms with me is finally making you smarter!...lol...FBjastek5@xxxxxxx wrote: 
With all the discussion about the # of Selects, it brought to mind an idea i've 
thought of for quite a while for judging our Specials class at the National. 
Most probably, this has thought about before but let me float the idea and see 
what the "List" thinks:1. Specials Judging: A Panel of Three Judges voted upon 
by the Membership.2. Each Judge is given a definitive WEIGHTED 
scorecard(Example only, this i'm sure could be improved upon)that defines the 
different attributes of the GSD as per the Std, Judges fill out the scorecard
 independently)Example Only:Attribute Weighting Score 1-10Sidegait 9Tempermant 
10Coming and Going 9Eye Color 8Coat 8Feet 8etc3. Animals with the highest 
scorecard are GV and GVX4. Animals are rated select based on their score5. All 
Animals over a certain score are given select.6. Scorecards are provided to 
owners at the end of the show.These are advantages and disadvantags i can think 
of, i'm sure the list will provide a bunch of others:Advantages:Get 
cross-section of OpinionOwners and Breeders have 3 Judge opinion on each dog in 
a standard format based upon the GSD standard. Could be a valuable learning 
tool, great database for the future.More judges get to judge the 
National(assuming this is a good thing)Will get more participation at National 
as people will not be influenced by PERCIEVED politics or likes or dislikes of 
one judge only or taking care of "friends" concern.Disadvantages:Specials Class 
will take more time(i believe with computer technology today, this could be
  made
 quite efficient)Don't know if this is within AKC rules and guidlinesThis is a 
concept only, a lot of work would have to be put in in defining the scorecard 
to "match" the priorities of the standard ,also investigation of how the 
technology can be put to best use to maximize 
efficiency.Thought???Bill============================================================================POST
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