I can feel the hurt and frustration in your post and it saddens me... You know what...there are DOZENS of ways to enjoy this magnificent breed. The breed ring is only a very smmmaaalll part of it. IMO...take care of you, take care of your family, pay off debt, fully fund retirement accounts, have good insurance in place, help your children get off to a good start if you can and if at the end of the day there's nothing left for shows...then by all means share your glorious dogs by doing some therapy work. Put a smile on a sick child's face, be humbled by the gratitude in their parents' eyes, visit and aging soul and watch as they delight in your dog's soft undercoat, really listen as they speak of dogs in their past...marvel at how your dog knows just how to approach... then tell me just how important that BOB rosette is. If the economy, politics, the unrest in the world has you down, grab a leash and a dog and take a nice walk in a park and see who you meet. Remind yourself what you loved about this breed in the first place, find it again and share it (...and I doubt it was the breed ring.) Put a couple of performance titles on your dogs, enjoy the bond that forms more than the alphabet soup behind their names. Eventually the economy will turn, clubs will once again prosper, maybe we'll even find majors. But for now, don't let a moment go by without enjoying the here and now and don't stress over things you have no control over...much like our dogs. Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions visit _http://www.pinehillgsds.com/_ (http://www.pinehillgsds.com/) In a message dated 6/11/2011 9:54:51 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, pretties1@xxxxxxxxx writes: I'm all for someone who can/will explain how "middle class Joe" is supposed to afford the pricy rates for GSD's to be shown by someone other than themselves. Maybe if they charged less they would have clients longer & with more than just 1 dog to show. I don't think it will change as long as the more wealthy keep paying the asking price. Times are terribly hard right now. I know myself, I work an average of 60 hrs. per week to afford the little I do. There's always hope that someday the rates will decrease & become affordable again. ---- sally hayden <sallyhayden5@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > It stopped being fun for me when I stopped grooming full time to pay for my > habit. I could no longer pay for those big weekends. ( my husband never paid > for anything) then I stopped breeding.. I tried going to shows to watch > that lasted a year or two I could not stand just sitting there. and I could > not justify driving 3-4 hours one way just to watch the small shows. so I > just stayed home.but old habits die hard. > Then my cardi Truman came into my life. dogs and dogs shows were fun again > as I could show him my self. Have done a lot of winning and now just waiting > till fall and he matures out for the adult classes.We will also do > obedience. I still have not adjust to allbreeds but that too shall change > > My point is I can understand why people leave showing. I understand the > big numbers in performance. I can understand the German style of showing > people want to be active with their dogs not just write checks > > On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 1:24 PM, <BAERENTATZE312@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > In a message dated 6/11/11 11:27:53 AM, sallyhayden5@xxxxxxxxx writes: > > > > It is sad isn't Lee-- It is now what it use to be a Rich man's sport.- I > > see so many names on as owners I think I am looking at a race horse. > > sally > > > > I would be curious to see what percentage fees, etc. have gone up in our > > breed versus other comparable breed, Rotties, Goldens, Labs or whatever for > > the last 20 years. I bet our breed would be the costliest to show with the > > highest rate of increase percentage-wise pitted against those other breeds. > > Yes Sally, it is reverting back to an exclusively rich persons sport. > > Perhaps everyone should take a hard look at whether getting the big bucks > > right now with a bleak future for long lasting income versus being > > reasonable in fees charged to include middleclass John and Jane Doe for the > > increased entries and long term income. For example if a handler charges > > $80 to show your dog in the ring for 5 minutes, that's a rate of $960 per > > hour. I know, I know, that's not all they do for their fee, but it does > > indicate how pricy fees have become. I won't even mention the National > > fees. I don't begrudge anyone earning a living, and I'm not bashing > > handlers, I'm just trying to look forward and see what might inevitably > > happen to our sport and how we, as a fancy, can keep it from becoming > > affordable only to those rich enough to participate. How much fun is that > > going to be? > > Regards, > > Pat > > > > > > > -- > Sally > > www.embroiderybysally.org > including Cardigan Corgis > > > ============================================================================ > POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. > > Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. 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