Hi Theresa;
FIRST......I think it is Ed Hill that has the talent for getting the Show list
active. <G> He brings out the best and the worst
in us...that is his REAL talent ( instead of breaking up marriages.. )
I think Evan is his back up man......but it's a secret....<G>
I'm a Californian......but I do not believe it would be wonderful to have the
National in California at ANY given site 3 - 4 years in a row.
How many awesome East Coast dogs would we then miss seeing because of the
travel problems. It IS supposed to be about the
dogs you know. The sites we have had have ALL that your are asking for. I
don't know why you think it is unique to Purina? It
is hard to beat Albany or Colorado.
Also.....at almost every National...you will have to deal with possibility of
winter weather in October.....or winter weather GETTING to
and from the National. Bad weather is not unique to Kentucky and Colorado.
Regarding the huge loss of money........I think that had more to do with the
'World Trials' than our Nationals and not many of us
actively supporting the National participated in that nor asked for that....
Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.marhaven.com
On Behalf Of Theresa-GSD Yesko (Redacted sender "scenecrest.geo" for DMARC)
Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2017 8:04 AM
Subject: self-evident. Long
Carolyn,
Yes, I do like the Purina Farm as St Louis is where my moms family settled with
spending 6 months there
each year growing up love MO.
However, not against Rotation again my comments over and over again stating if
it is affordable, a site
that offers everything necessary for all events, nice safe motels-hotels and
restaurants the GSDCA should
go for it. The GSDCA can not afford to lose anymore money
not good which is still my main concern.
Michigan is a horrible State to ever hold a National weather too unstable and
no good place to hold it. Lexington, KY beautiful spot but again no place to
hold a National in October weather unstable there too. The Kentucky Horse Park
is set up for horses but a lovely
site great indoor arena been there many times again horse facility. Ohio again
unpredictable snow storms can arrive there in Oct
too. Columbus has a very nice indoor facility but again mostly horse shows and
events held there. October unless there are facilities the National
can be held indoors even in the West unless possibly a few states out of the MT
it is iffy.
At least I have gotten the Showlist active again. :-)
Theresa
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On Wed, 8/2/17, Carolyn Martello <marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: We hold these truths to be self-evident. Long
To: "'Ed'" <edwinx@xxxxxxx>, "'showgsd-l'" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
"'Theresa-GSD Yesko'" <scenecrest.geo@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wednesday, August 2, 2017, 1:26 AM
Re: We hold these
truths to be self-evident. Long
Theresa....it sounds to me like you just love the
Purina site no matter what...but I wonder if you
would
love it as much
if you had to drive three days to that site and
three days back for 4 out of 5 years.
Yes...the
grounds are lovely...the arena itself for long
striding
German Shepherd Dogs to have room to
gait...not so much.
I am told the surface is hard on the
handlers also after three days. ( I cannot speak to that
)
Sure it has all the accommodations...every
National site is required to! It is no more special
than
many others in all the
accommodations you mentioned. I can see how many would love the
indoor facilities to sit and watch...but actually
exhibit
your GSD it is not that great as far as I am
concerned in
size, surface, noise...and general space around the
arena.
There are several nice sites
available with all the same qualities you seem to think are
Purina only...and many better..
In response to your question about
rotation
and how many people will show up.......? What about with
rotation how many
actual exhibitors and dues paying
members will show up and show their magnificent
animals
from all parts of the Country.
Many dogs and owners cannot get to
some sites......and they are animals you will never see.
With rotation at least EVERYONE
gets a reasonable shot of exhibiting
at a National every two or three years.......... That
should count for something.
This same argument for Purina is not
working
for those of us that are giving up on it sooner or
later..........
Carolyn
marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.marhaven.com
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Behalf Of Theresa-GSD Yesko
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Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2017 9:22
AMTo: showgsd-l
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: We hold these truths to be self-evident.
Long
There
was never a vote for rotation just a survey with most
members not even responding. Why
does
the GSDCA members not vote by ballot to see how many members
really want rotation or would
just
like to stay
at one location? The Purina Farm
still does offer everything needed for all events, including
motor homes available
for those that do not want to haul their motor home to the
grounds.
Several nice motels, restaurants with a
beautiful
setting offering a great place to
promote the GSD
to the
public. With rotation how many people are really
going
to go to the show except
friends,
families, handlers or those involved?
Nice
to keep the Show List active as I do not like Facebook just
not the same as this forum.
Theresa
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On
Tue, 8/1/17, <edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] We hold these
truths to be self-evident. Long
To:
"showgsd-l" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tuesday, August 1, 2017, 10:51
AM
It
appears to me the most important issue of
the majority of
the
members of the GSDCA is the location of the National
Show, I remember the very spirited
debates and
arguments years ago when this list was
very active and the
views of many were discussed for days and
days... some kind
of
survey or vote was initiated by the board ( I think
it
was
the board) or somebody which
resulted in the members
favoring a rotation of the show,... east
to middle to west
to
middle to east etc etc..... at that time I was
against
rotation , I had my reasons and believed a
yearly National
in
the same location mid country
was the best way to do our
National... the facts I based my opinion
on are still valid,
as a
matter of fact those facts are even stronger today,
the
biggest being the difficulty of flying
large German
Shepherds across the country! I
listened to the
elegant
arguments of my opponents ( mainly the
late great Dick
Whalen and the presently great Evan
Ginsburg) they explained
to
me why rotation was crucial to the spirit and
enthusiasm
of
the members! They were right! So I did a flip-flop
and
now I believe
as they do... it seemed that rotations
were
going smoothly until for reasons I
either don't
understand or don't believe the BOD
decided to go to St
Louis for three years! .... and in my
opinion a serious
mistake, the mistake is not so much in the
three years, the
serious mistake is the inability ( or the
lack of effort )
to
get OUT of St Louis! I think this has done more damage
to
the
general membership than any other issue over the
past
ten
years or so, and Lord knows
we've had some issues
with
Hunte, Margery, Law suites and things I
can't
remember... but National Location "
Trumps" them
all!
If the board really wants to honor these
"truths" that our club wants
true rotation of its
National show, they can't wait to the last minute
to
find
locations! The New President should place a
high
priority on finding spots in the three
regions and book them
ASAP... and make this club great again! If
he or she does
that
we might get Ruth to join again! Not many wiser than
she
is! Ed Hill
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