I think every dog person is a judge. We all judge our own dogs or the breeding programs of the people we buy our dogs from. We all judge how our dogs stack up to the Standard and to the competition because if we do not, we just waste our money and become frustrated. We judge the judges, selecting who to show to and who not to - both in performance and conformation. Someone started a conformation class one time with the following questions. The catch was that you couldn't look at the Standard before you answered! I offer the questions to the group for discussion this cold Saturday afternoon (at least here in the frozen north). No peeking! 1) What are the correct proportions of length to height? 2) How many disqualifying faults are there? Name at least 3. 3) Approximately how much of the length of the dog should be in the back (e.g. 25%, 50%, etc.) 4) Name the 2 VERY SERIOUS faults. Pam -----Original Message----- From: Theresa-GSD Stolz-Scenecrest Farm Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2013 12:26 PM To: carolyn mckenna ; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Fw: Re: Re: Personalities not belonging? You do not know what events the Total Dog Award refers to? Your right every judge is different good and bad and they can place a dog first one day and not the next with same dogs out there. Theresa --- On Sat, 2/2/13, carolyn mckenna <carolynmckenna@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: I do not understand when you say that UKC offers the total dog but AKC does not. I am both an AKC judge and a UKC judge so I know not to what you refer. There are good and poor judges in both venues (as in all life ) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================