The shows aren't until Oct/Nov. 2013 and this is 2009. I do believe 4 years is good notice. Bob Neiman / Walled Lake, Mich. Breeder/owner of UKC GR Ch.B'N'B-Barkalot's Cherish RN Co-owner of UKC ChSandyCreek-B'N'B-WC's Christmas Star AKA Echo Co-owner of Ketlyn's Black Widow --- On Mon, 8/10/09, InquestGSD@xxxxxxx <InquestGSD@xxxxxxx> wrote: From: InquestGSD@xxxxxxx <InquestGSD@xxxxxxx> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] 2013 WUSV trials To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Monday, August 10, 2009, 4:53 PM I am not against these trials. Not that it matters whether we are against them or not, as it seems some already committed to club to it. I am against the poor execution of communication to the membership when some are ready to spend A LOT OF MONEY of the club, and no one has presented a good plan as of yet. I haven't seen any announcements in the Review, or with the Ballots. No flyers, no emails. And this has been in the plans for several years now? Boy, is this ever a wake up call. It is wonderful to be the host of any event that showcases the German Shepherd Dog. I just think it is outrageous to be talking about the regular expenses of the National, plus a quote of over $75,000 for the Centennial, plus over $250,000 for the World Trial. You cant be cavalier and say "so what,is just money." The big majority of our members think that it is A LOT OF MONEY. Some of us work for a living. Think about the Holidays. Dec 21st. You are very busy, doing all the consuming tasks of the holidays, and suddenly, you are the host for a very large party the day after Christmas. No one gives you any details, no one tells you what your budget is, or if you are going to get help with that budget. Just that "it should be an honor" to host this very cumbersome event. With short notice. That's what I think members are having a hard time dealing with. There is room to be concerned. Hopefully this wont end up costing the Club and the members more than we can all afford. This has nothing to do with pride, I am proud of every sound GSD, in every facet of the sport, and regardless of where they come from. This is about MONEY. And who is playing with the house money? Some clubs may have a little bit in their coffers. How will they benefit from donating away what little they have? Honor doesn't pay the bills for their next shows. Or help support the local members in need. Yes, it is awesome to showcase all aspect of the breed. Lets start with those we, the GSDCA, are involved with. Lets showcase herding, agility, obedience, tracking, rally......I bet you we wouldn't spend anywhere close $300,000 to do that. I emailed a bunch of questions 2 days ago, and still no answers. Lots of "I think". Lots of "maybes". Lots of "we should feel good and honored", but no concrete answers. It almost feels like this was a rushed decision, with very poor follow thru. We penalize that in the ring <G> Ileana ===========================================================================POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ =========================================================================== ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================