[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: 2013 AUDIT LETTER DATED 0CT.13,2013

  • From: John Lacher <john.lacher@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2015 08:54:43 -0800

I agree Evan. The audits or for that matter the treasurers report not being
done because the officers or Board of Directors are stonewalling is
inexcusable.  Reports not submitted in a timely manner to the membership
shows a complete lack of responsibility.

John Lacher
Oroville, CA
Tele: 530.566.4757
Fax: 530-846-5159
GSDCA / GSDC Sacramento Valley


On Jan 28, 2015 11:03 PM, "Redacted sender ELG440@xxxxxxx for DMARC" <
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>  I didn't read the audit letter.  I have never gone to the private areas
> of the club.  However, I remember my years on the board. It was always,
> "The audit has not been completed" or, "We are waiting for more
> information", or "There are reports to add into the audit so it can't be
> completed".  That always was the report from auditors.
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> I suspect the same thing is going on. Dave is probably right, there are
> too many hands in the financial affairs of the club. But,instead of making
> the same mistake over and over, it is time to correct it.
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> Or we can follow Einstein's theory of insanity and do the same thing over
> and over expecting a different result.
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> Evan L.Ginsburg
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> German Shepherds   In a message dated 1/28/2015 9:03:34 P.M. Pacific
> Standard Time, edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: You're  right Dave, things may be
> very explainable.... But I believe the Duck Theory is usually correct....
> "If it walks like a duck, and it quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck"
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> David FritscheTo: freelistSent: January 28, 2015 at 8:39 PMSubject: [
> SHOWGSD-L ] 2013 AUDIT LETTER DATED 0CT.13,2013 I just read it and do not
> think it proves anything other than that we have not done a good job of
> providing all the records an auditor would need to do their job. Of course
> that can be explained by some nefarious activities, but it could also be
> explained by there being too many people handling records, dispersing
> funds, depositing funds and either not keeping good records or misplacing
> them. It is not a new problem in terms of our leadership being delegated to
> committees, etc., but it is a problem. Before we decide what the problem
> is, we might want to let the wheels of authority work with the auditors to
> get it together. I am confident that once they know they will communicate
> the solution. Did a forensic asset search recently involving a fellow who
> owned over a billion dollars in assets. Turned out he had no assets at all.
> All the companies that he controlled were not owned by him at all.
> Appearances can be deceiving. The audit trail will find the problem. That
> is what it is for. We shall see…. Dave   <http://www.asgardgsd.com/>  From:
> showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of edwinx@comcast.netSent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 7:40 PMTo:
> dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; showgsd-l@freelists.orgSubject: [ SHOWGSD-L ]
> Re: Fwd: 2013 AUDIT LETTER DATED 0CT.13,2013   I read that letter twice and
> I'm not going to pretend I understood everything I read, but it left me
> with the impression that " Sumtin ain't right". The person who put  that on
> the member only website has " BIG ONES".....white dogs, yeah or nay, are
> NOT the problem! Ed Hill <http://www.asgardgsd.com/>*
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