I agree -- why are there always people who want to destroy everything -- there is no perfect site, but at least this is an attempt to make it easier for Texas folks to reach while not being farther into the heart of Texas making it more difficult for others to reach. The people working on this have been working above and beyond the call of duty to make it happen. Let's be thankful and supportive instead of destructive. And let's stand up and be counted - do not allow all the negativity. It is our club, our national and we need to stand up for ourselves. I am sure there will be people complaining about Ohio next year - heaven knows what will happen there between now and then - but let's make it clear now that we will not just sit quietly by while people try to destroy all that is good about this club and event. Ruth --- On Sat, 10/11/08, caggra@xxxxxxx <caggra@xxxxxxx> wrote: -----Original Message----- From: hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To: Carolyn Martello <marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; TISHW@xxxxxxx; dan-ann@xxxxxxxx; Bokenkampgsd1@xxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 3:17 pm Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: 2008 truth or consequences I agree that although Beaumont would not have been my site of choice, that is what was decided and so be it. I am not certain what drives all this angst at national time. I always have to wonder if folks who always seem to have their "panties in a wad" about something, live in this type of turmoil daily..if so..I feel sorry for their dogs!!! Our approach to the National is sort of looking at it as a"family" reunion. We get to see folks who are close friends, but distance keeps of from getting together and having fun but once a year. Also it is a great place to see what other breeders are doing. The folks in Texas have had a rough time of it. I wish some wouldn't add to their grief. On some other list there has been talk about potential mold..whatever. ANY facility or any hotel could potentially have mold.Yet no one has acted like this was an issue in the past. When you truck in sod and water it, it could develop mold since there is nowhere for the water to evaporate and it can't be absorbed as well into the ground and no sunlight, this is anywhere..not just Beaumont However NEVER has this been an issue until now with this particular National. I think there was a post regarding people who constantly disrupt this club and its ability to conduct club business.Let me stress, anytime a conflict can be settled without litigation, or charges being filed in or out of the PC, that is the best option. I strongly believe that using the PC and filing charges against anyone should be a last resort. HOWEVER, if some continue to disrupt this club, and are attempting to keep the PC in a constant state of turmoil to the point where it cannot conduct business,and are a source of discouragement to participate in our national in an attempt to make it a failure, then this needs to be addressed in a fashion that makes these few understand the seriousness of what they are doing and that they need to stop with their antics.If a few want to protest the National for their own reasons, fine, but don't try to shore up others to join yo ur cause by using a public forum such as this and other Lists to fan the flames of unsupported rumors. At the end of the day, it is just plain childish, so take your toys and go play in your own sandbox and leave the rest of us who want to go play nicely with others alone! Christine hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Steve and Christine Grainger WWW.HICKORYHILLGSD.COM > [Original Message] > From: Carolyn Martello <marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <TISHW@xxxxxxx>; <dan-ann@xxxxxxxx>; <Bokenkampgsd1@xxxxxxx>; <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Date: 10/10/2008 6:04:20 PM > Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: 2008 truth or consequences > > I agree wholeheartedly on this. > While Beaumont has never been my first choice ( Coast ) it offers one of the best arenas > we've seen, and the Texas workers have been awesome in keeping us all informed and working > very hard to make sure it still is the great site they worked so hard to get for all of us!!! > As Tish said......it is truly SAD that ANYONE would work hard to try so desperately to undermine > the 2008 German Shepherd Dog National at ANY site ......and amazes me. Our Texas friends > have suffered through hurricane IKE and yet immediately went to work on assessing any > damage or problems for our sake and for the sake of our 2008 National!! > Lets give them all a big hand and all the support we can!! Have fun .....and let them have fun!! > > Thank you Nanci and Lea for all your hard work and Molly for all the helpful information and > anyone, & everyone else that we probably don't even know is working so hard. THANK YOU! > Let the judging begin...........and MAY THE BEST DOGS WIN! > > Emilie from Canada..........watch for us in the fast lane. <G> See you there!! <G> > > > Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > www.Marhaven.com > > > > , > dan-ann@xxxxxxxx writes: > I think we need to initiate a game of truth or consequences for those who are trying to spread > rumors of doom and gloom about the national-It is really rather pitiful the lengths people will go > ***************************************************** > Thanks Sally. There is a group of people who have done their best to deep-six Beaumont and who > continue to do so. It is hard to understand why Club members want to harm an organization > of which they are a part. They continue to create problems and show a lack of concern for the > Club and the membership. Tish > > ===========================================================================> POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. > > ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. 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