About 5 years ago Joy & I went to our first Specialty in over 20 years. We showed in the early-mid 70s & did pretty well in the ring with me handling against far superior handlers. Were even fortunate enough to produce an ROM Bitch in our first litter. We do have Sally Holcombe to thank for that (and Doug Crane for finishing her progeny) When we went to the first show, & a couple after that, We both were questioning how in the world did we ever put a point on any our old dogs. We were comparing on pictures from the old shows & our memory. The Dogs & Bitches of today are far better in many ways than we remembered. It was only when I started ordering Tapes of the old National & especially the Past 20 Year Video that we realized our dogs were not as bad as we thought. I am sure some will differ with me & that's okay I wouldn't argue the point The Top dogs of that era were outstanding for sure, but I really feel the Dogs & Bitches in the ring today are (as a group) more appealing to watch. I also don't think some care to remember the problems that were present back then. I have seen many beautiful Males, at recent shows, Masculine, great shoulder, etc. out there plowing up the ring with one or both rear feet. That is a problem. Also there are some "Bitchy" Dogs & "Doggy" Bitches There always has been. I think Hips are far better than they were, thanks to Selective Breeding. If there were no problems there wouldn't be any challenges to the Breeders. Gene BakerGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================