I think the idea of 2 shows on one day is an intrigueing one. I see four possible items that should be considered: 1. Fatigue and Stress on the Dogs: Today in California the average show lasts from 10:00 am to 1:00 pm. In the good old days it would last till 4 and 5 pm. So i think the dogs can handle it. And secondly the dogs would not have to come to the shows a second day, so that i think would be preferable for the dogs. It could be possibly more stressful for puppies however. 2. Expenses- I think 2 shows on one day are definately more cost effective for exhibitors. With the increased costs of transportation,lodging and food, i think one day would dramatically reduce expenses for most exhibtors(not only their personal expenses but also for the expenses that they cover for handlers) 3. Show Grounds: Unless the shows are indoors, at certain times of the year in certain areas of the country darkness and light need to be considered. Althought starting the show at 9:00 may solve this problem. 4. Particpation by New Members; Have shows on only one day of the weekend may make dogs shows less restrictive to a lot of people who find it difficult to provide the committment of both days of the weekend dedicated to dog shows. In considering these four items, IMHO it would be a positive step to take. Bill Sheila Lieberman <sheilaofmiami@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: I am violently in favor of having 2 shows in one day. First the costs involved drop for everyone involved. Handlers only have to groom once for 2 shows, better for the dogs? and if the judges are of the same general opinion, the entries should be better. As for the limit on night time shows, let's see about that. It might just prove to be a good number, and it might not. But Sunday night shows will likely be the smallest entry, and the highest pulled, so that working folk can go to work on Monday. But if I understand correctly, a club must hold only one of its shows each day, if there are 2 clubs, so if clubs share the burden, it should be a win win win situation, for at least WD and WB and BOB!!! I think this is a great way to increase entry and reduce costs. Sheila LeBrowngsd@xxxxxxx wrote: Hi listers, I am sure most of you are aware that AKC will approve two specialty shows to be held on the same day starting in 2007. Want opinions on how exhibitors, handlers feel about holding one show in the morning then another show in the afternoon. We have the futurity in April of 2007 and are thinking of having a Friday afternoon show, Saturday morning show then a Saturday afternoon show. The futurity will be held on Sunday. Would this be to much for one weekend? Would it hurt or help the entries? You may send private but then some on the list may also be interested in how others feel about this new approval from AKC. AKC is also putting in effect that night time specialties will be limited to 50 entries in 2007. I spoke with Robin Stansell in Raleigh this weekend and this has passed and will take effect in 2007. Some friends of mine called AKC to see if there was any possibility of raising that limit to at least 75. They were told that the parent clubs of the various breeds would need to complain to AKC that the 50 limit is to low. AKCs position from talking to Robin Stansell is that if you get more than 50 then you should be able to hold your show without the help of the AB shows. They feel if you have an entry of less than 50 then you cannot afford to have a stand alone specialty but if you have more than you should be able to afford it. Lee Brown ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. 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