Ok, I guess you learn something new every day....I love the quarter horse breed, but warmbloods are my horses. I love the german shepherd but who knows, down the line, I might just own a king charles cavalier, I am almost convinced to get one. Puppies are coming and I have almost made my mind up. Would I own a quarter horse??? Most certainly. Love everything about them, especially thier easy going attitude, except for a couple of lines that I won't mention. My old Thoroughbred geriatric mare will be 29 next month and she is the most dirtiest, sloppiest horse I have ever owned, but I wouldn't trade her love for anything in the world, she is so dedicated to me. Had her out in her nicely growing grass field yesterday, and of all the grass she could graze, guess where she went, in the patch with the burrs and blackberries, so I have my work cut out now, she is covered from head to toe in burrs. And to top it all off, my dogs are naked, the look funny, blown coats galore! Giselda ----- Original Message ----- From: tsaligsds@xxxxxxxxxxx To: tashina1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ; scotties@xxxxxxxxxxxx ; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Cc: Brenda Shepard Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 11:49 PM Subject: Re: 1/4 horses was: Re: NOT size again I find it funny that folks refer to the bulldog style Quarter Horse as the 'original' when the breed was developed as a Quarter mile race Horse [hence the name] on the East coast from thoroughbred and local mixed stock, then later bred to mustang [Mestino stock of Arab/Barb decent] in the west to make them a hardier worker. The 'bulldog' was developed as a cattle herder but was not the 'original' version....... The 'bulldog' was developed to handle heavier cattle after ranchers started importing European cattle to bred to the native longhorn cattle to improve meat output. They probably had to use cold blood cross stock to get that extra size and body mass. Just look at the photos from the 1800's to see what ranch horses looked like before you start flaming!!! To make this dog related.... same thing happened in dogs. Look for the Australian Shepherds in the same photos while you're looking at the horses!! LOL One hundred years ago they looked just like the dogs you'd see at an ASCA trial today......or a heavier bodied smooth Pyremean Shepherd, which is where the breed originated. From the Pyremean mountains with the sheep to Australia to the west coast of the US with the same Basque herders. They are no more an "American' breed than Quarter Horses are a "Texas" breed!!!!! Flame away. LOL -- Suzanne www.tsalishepherds.com Home of BIS/BISS Ch Yancy ITs HT PT RE CD TC CGC BH, Helios IPO3, Ch Flair, Tess, and Gilli RN, and all the others waiting at the bridge -------------- Original message -------------- > When you are looking for the true quarter horse stick to the foundation bred > stock.... That is one > registry that is a stickler and they have to be foundation bred. In my > opinion that is where you > will find the best bull-dog quarter still around, that goes back to the old > lines, not the running > quarter (racing quarter as some call it) of today. > > When I worked brand inspection and the stock yards I watched someone that > had a running quarter > get pushed all through the chutes by the stock, bring in a bull-dog quarter > and you will not > see that happen. Yes, bull-dog quarters are big and stocky, but they can > turn and spin on a > dime. They are the true working horse and I would not have anything else. > > ; > > > > They have changed the Quarter Horse a lot, they have incorportated a lot of > thoroughbred into them so that they will be better show horses for pleasure > showing and dressage. I prefer the good old Bull dog Quarter horse myself. > Kind of like the good old Rin tin tin dog! > > ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================