I'm actually a little surprised if no one knew that the National UFO Reporting
Center is located just out of Davenport. Housed in one of the 8 old Atlas E
Missile Silo's, Peter Davenport (http://www.nuforc.org/pdbio.html) has a fairly
credible resume and lots of experience. Legitimately, he is contacted regularly
by municipalities for his expertise.
If you really want to get "conspiracy theory", I wonder what the CDC is storing
in the Atlas E Bunker near Reardan......... ?
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Dale Isley
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From: sas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <sas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of Paul
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Sent: Monday, July 2, 2018 4:46 PM
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Subject: [SAS] Re: UFOs?
It would be awesome beyond belief if there were aliens willing to communicate
with us and share knowledge of the universe. I cannot imagine anyone NOT
wanting to know there are others besides ourselves. Did they struggle with
similar issues? What have they learned of their own evolutionary processes?
How similar are our technologies and understandings of the universe?
There would be so much to know. People keep secrets for a wide variety of
reasons, but chiefly to realize some economic or political advantage. But do
astronomers get paid enough to keep silent about discoveries of this nature?
More than a few would trade that for the fame of discovery. The be the one to
announce this finding to the world.
Beyond that, there are plenty of people who would act on the basis of altruism.
The world deserves to know. These folks would find a way to let the cat out
of the bag.
I buy that extraterrestrial life is likely, and possibly exists elsewhere even
in our own solar system. And if they are out there, they don't appear to be
broadcasting their presence. Maybe they fear Berserkers (highly xenophobic
aliens intent on the extermination of carbon based organisms). WE aren't
broadcasting. We did it once, the Arecibo message sent in 1974 to M13, and the
chickened out. You can imagine aliens trying to do the same thing, with their
own Senator Proxmire cancelling their project with the explanation alien
coffers are foolishly wasted on blue sky research and instead best expended on
cheese subsidies.
Our Arecibo message will arrive at the globular cluster in Hercules in about
25,000 years.
Suppose there are ten advanced civilizations evenly distributed through the
"habitable" disk of the galaxy, with detectors listening for electromagnetic
carrier waves. What's the average spacing? We could spread them through the
volume of a cylindrical disk 3000 light years thick (the value from Monty
Python's "The Galaxy Song"), but for a quick conservative estimate we can just
put them in a ring with a 30,000 light year radius (our distance from the
galactic core).
Circumference is 60,000(pi) light years, or 188,500 light years. Divide by ten
puts our average closest neighbor at 18,000 light years away. We've got
another 18,000 - (2018-1935) = 17,917 years for them to get the first BBC
broadcasts. 36,000 years for a reply, unless they know how to "violate
causality."
THIS was a particularly fascinating object:
The first discovered interstellar asteroid is a quarter-mile long
red<http://www.astronomy.com/news/2017/11/interstellar-asteroid-is-a-quarter-mile-long-red-beast>
<http://www.astronomy.com/news/2017/11/interstellar-asteroid-is-a-quarter-mile-long-red-beast>
The first discovered interstellar asteroid is a quarter-mile long red
Take us with you, `Oumuamua.
I'd like to see us develop the technology to intercept future interstellar
interlopers, and perhaps return samples. But we have concluded we are much
better served beefing up our military, creating space armies, and granting
enormous tax breaks to our beloved wealthy elite instead. There's not enough
left in the public treasury to fund a decent cheese subsidy.
Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo
On Saturday, June 30, 2018, 12:14:37 PM PDT, Shauna Hemenway
<shaunadeehrest@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hello all. I came across this article (an annoying read with all the ads,
sorry), and was wondering what the night sky observers think about it?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-5902189/amp/Physics-professor-claims-need-face-possibility-UFO-sightings-really-alien-craft.html
Shauna
