[sarcmembers] Re: SARC Tower and Dish move...

  • From: "george bernard" <gbernard@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: sarcmembers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 15:26:20 GMT

john,   i think you are correct.  can you call me on home fone?   805-688-6324 
and we can discuss what to do about this $1500 antenna?  how do we use it?  do 
we just have to tolerate the high swr?  george

santa barbara, ca   web page is
www.balanceindustries.com for my company cell 818-370-9407


-----Original Message-----
From: jportune@xxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 8:22 AM
To: sarcmembers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [sarcmembers] Re: SARC Tower and Dish move...

Rember basic radio theory. A log-periodic is basically a NON-resonant antenna. 
So "some" instruments may not see it correctly. But on a basic SWR bridge is 
should show low SWR on any requency within its range.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: george bernard 
  To: sarcmembers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 8:09 AM
  Subject: [sarcmembers] Re: SARC Tower and Dish move...


  john,   do you think that a log periodic antenna might not resonate on any 
ham bands?  it is covering 50-1300 mcs so maybe
  it doesnt dip like we expected it to on 144.2?   perhaps i should just call 
ted henry at hrc and purchase a 15 element yage for that tower/rotator and call 
it quits with the log periodic?   it worked fine for me in goleta on six and 
two meters and also on 432.12  ssb.   thank you for donating the use of your 70 
amps for this rig.   we need to tell all members not to run power up past  300 
watts as you recommend and also
  how do you want to proceed on the landwehr preamp which is in the workshop 
area?   btw  i got the ultrasonic bird repeller installed in my airplane hangar 
at smx airport yesterday.   it is made by Bird-X.com  company of chicago,  cost 
was only
  $249.   regards,  george bernard w6nre
  PS:  the photo of the explorer sheriff scouts who are using my donated "black 
box uhf radios" on 460.275 and .325   were  useful by visiting police officers 
from other jurisdistricts working the fire.  sheriff brown allowed us to 
program channels 1-7 to the same freqs as the regular motorolas which his peole 
carry.  i bought 24 of them and a computer to program the freqs.  channels
  8-16 are gmrs channels for the kids to talk with each other.   these are only 
$150 each so if they fail we delete the serial number and trash the radio.  if 
one gets lost we dont worry about it.   
santa barbara, ca   web page is
www.balanceindustries.com for my company cell 818-370-9407
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  From: John Maetta
  Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 7:22 AM
  To: sarcmembers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Subject: [sarcmembers] SARC Tower and Dish move...



  All,

  Yesterday, with the help of Bob, W6RFH, we were able to reposition the EME 
dish and portable tower. The new locations allow much shorter control and 
hardline runs to the operating positions.  My special thanks to Bob, for his 
expertise in delicately moving of the fully loaded EME tower. 

  www.n6vmo.com/arpics/SARCTowerandDishMoveMay92009/index.html

  I have loaned SARC the use of my Astron RS-70 powersupply to power the TE 
Systems 144MHz amplifier. It is modified to power and provide cooling air to 
the amplifier.

  Later, W6NRE arrived and we discovered during testing, that the log periodic 
antenna exhibited high SWR on 144.200MHz.  We also noted that the antenna was 
not resonate on any amateur band or frequencies in the VHF range.  The log 
periodic antenna was taken down for further troubleshooting and the tower is 
currently laying flat on the SARC roof.

  The 1.29GHz amplifer has new cooling water and tested to 200 watts output, it 
should be ready for 1.2Ghz EME operation by June 6th. Hopefully, after the 
monthly meeting, it can be successfully demonstrated by providing our first 
1296MHz EME contact. 

  This past week, I noted an ad on QTH.com for a almost new 12' parabolic TVRO 
dish. The dish is for sale and located in Solvang.  I emailed the seller and 
asked if he had not sold it, would he be interested in donating it to the club. 
He happily agreed.  If it becomes available, and meets with the board's 
approval, along with focal and mounting requirements, I will meet with him to 
transport it to the club, swap it out with the current 10' dish. The 10' dish 
will then leave for the dump, unless a club member wants it.

  The new dish will provide ~50% more reflective surface area than the 10' 
dish. This extra surface area will add ~2.8dB of gain, effectively almost 
doubling the ERP and adding ~1/2 S-Unit of received signal strength. 

  73

  John

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