[sac-board] Re: SACnews
- From: "Rick Tejera" <saguaroastro@xxxxxxx>
- To: <sac-board@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 18:01:48 -0700
Charlie,
When did you send it? I haven't gotten anything from you since this thread
started. Just checked my spam folder and it's clean. Did you perchance send
it to my office address (rtejera@xxxxxxxxxxx)? If so, please always copy my
home address as well.
Thanks
Clear Skies
Rick Tejera
Editor SACnews
Saguaro Astronomy Club
Phoenix, Arizona
www.saguaroastro.org
saguaroastro@xxxxxxx
-----Original Message-----
From: sac-board-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:sac-board-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Charlie & Anne
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 16:43
To: sac-board@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [sac-board] Re: SACnews
I agree with trying to get the complimentary newsletters emailed in stead of
mailing hardcopies. I sent Rick a copy of the complimentary database.
Charlie
----- Original Message -----
From: <rtejera@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <sac-board@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 12:25 PM
Subject: [sac-board] Re: SACnews
> First step would be to look at the current list of comps. Charlie said
> he get me an updated copy alter today.=20
>
> From that we could probably get a few that should've been sent email all
> along Lowell Obs & the ASC come to mind here.
>
> Next would be to email those that have email addresses and advise them
> of the policy change.
>
> Finally those with out email address could have an insert into the next
> issue with the policy change, and a form to provide an email address=20
>
> Sound reasonable?
>
> Rick Tejera
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: sac-board-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:sac-board-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve D.
> Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 12:16
> To: sac-board@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [sac-board] Re: SACnews
>
> I agree with Peter and AJ. So, what do we do about it?
>
> Steve Dodder
> President, Saguaro Astronomy Club
> Director, Stone Haven Observatory
>
> fester00@xxxxxxxxxxx
>
> http://www.stargazing.net/Astroman
>
>> From: acrayon@xxxxxxx
>> To: sac-board@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [sac-board] Re: SACnews
>> Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 18:18:15 -0700
>>=20
>> I tend to agree with the tenor of this discussion. If we are=20
>> supplying complimentary copies of our newsletter it seems, to me, that
>
>> we should be making decision on how it will be delivered. Since there
>
>> is a significant cost involved for the printing, and they aren't=20
>> paying for said printing, it seems we should take a more proactive=20
>> role in deciding on delivery mechanism. That delivery mechanisms
> first choice should be via e-mail.
>>=20
>> AJ Crayon
>> Phoenix, AZ
>>=20
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "SAC Webmaster" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <sac-board@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 5:59 PM
>> Subject: [sac-board] Re: SACnews
>>=20
>>=20
>> Given the relatively large expense it presents to the club, why are we
>
>> letting the recipients determine this? It is a complimentary copy -=20
>> the benefit being provided is that they are able to receive the=20
>> current issue of the newsletter a full 3 months before it would=20
>> generally be available to them. Asking them to bear the burden of=20
>> printing it, if that is their desire, doesn't seem too much to ask.
>>=20
>> Just my opinion. How do others feel?
>>=20
>> Peter
>>=20
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Rick Tejera" <saguaroastro@xxxxxxx>
>> To: <sac-board@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 5:48 PM
>> Subject: [sac-board] Re: SACnews
>>=20
>>=20
>> Ah, Missed that point. I ran a straw poll of the comps a few year's=20
>> back to let them know & encourage electronic delivery. Quite a few
> took that up.
>> Several did not, the most common reason given was that they display=20
>> then issue at their meetings for their members to peruse. I presume=20
>> they didn't want to incur the time & cost of printing it themselves.
>>=20
>> Maybe it's time again to poll the comps.
>>=20
>> Clear Skies
>>=20
>> Rick Tejera
>>=20
>> Editor SACnews
>>=20
>> Saguaro Astronomy Club
>>=20
>> Phoenix, Arizona
>>=20
>> www.saguaroastro.org
>>=20
>> saguaroastro@xxxxxxx
>>=20
>>=20
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: sac-board-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
>> [mailto:sac-board-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> On Behalf Of SAC Webmaster
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 16:53
>> To: sac-board@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [sac-board] Re: SACnews
>>=20
>> My comment wasn't regarding mailed newsletters to members. I was=20
>> specifically referring to the complimentary copies.
>>=20
>> Peter
>>=20
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Rick Tejera" <saguaroastro@xxxxxxx>
>> To: <sac-board@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 4:37 PM
>> Subject: [sac-board] Re: SACnews
>>=20
>>=20
>> Peter,
>>=20
>> There are still several members who don't have email or a slow
> connection.
>> And there are those who for whatever reason prefer to have a printed=20
>> copy mailed.
>>=20
>> Clear Skies
>>=20
>> Rick Tejera
>>=20
>> Editor SACnews
>>=20
>> Saguaro Astronomy Club
>>=20
>> Phoenix, Arizona
>>=20
>> www.saguaroastro.org
>>=20
>> saguaroastro@xxxxxxx
>>=20
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: sac-board-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
>> [mailto:sac-board-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> On Behalf Of SAC Webmaster
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 16:34
>> To: SAC Board
>> Subject: [sac-board] SACnews
>>=20
>> I just had the April issue of SACnews printed this afternoon and it=20
>> will go out in tomorrow's mail. Using the latest database from=20
>> Charlie, we print a total of 33 copies each month. Of the total, 22=20
>> are complimantary and 11 are mailed to paying members.
>> The postage costs for the member's newsletters: $4.51 monthly; $54.12=20
>> annually.
>>=20
>> The postage costs for the complimentary copies: $9.02 monthly; $108.24
>
>> annually.
>>=20
>> The printing costs are donated, but represent an expense of about $20=20
>> annually per copy.
>> This translates to an expense of $220 annually for members and $440=20
>> annually for the complimentary issues.
>>=20
>> Add in the postage and it's about $275 annually for the member's=20
>> newsletters and $550 for the comps. Assuming we have a membership=20
>> totaling 100, this represents roughly 9% and 19% of our annual income=20
>> respectively - more than a quarter of the budget.
>>=20
>> My question here is why we print and mail any complimentary copies.=20
>> Wouldn't emailing the link to the current issue be sufficient? I can=20
>> think of better uses for this money.
>>=20
>> Any comments?
>>=20
>> Peter
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