Rick, In my last message sent yesterday at 21:04:05 I said to Paul: "I see some of your points. Maybe I've been looking at this the wrong way". Thus, I was conceding that maybe I have been looking at this the wrong way. I felt this issue was over. You must have seen my last message and so I do not understand the purpose of your message unless it is to criticize me even though you put a disclaimer on it by saying "Sorry if this message seems strongly worded, but I felt it needed to be said". If I cannot express concerns or comments or suggestions without being attacked, than I won't and will not from here on out. What prompted my comments concerning the way events are scheduled was not an out of the blue criticism of SAC's procedures, but rather a response to a concern someone had expressed regarding the timing of the May meeting. I felt this conflict was a result of the way SAC plans things and so I expressed my opinions. Maybe my observation as to the cause of the problem may be wrong, but I certainly should be able to express my views without being criticized for doing so. As I said in a previous message "My comments are intended to be constructive, not destructive" and this is true. Perhaps my use of the word 'mystified' was innapropriate by being inflammatory, and if so I retract and regret having used it. To answer your question "where were you during the process itself? You are obviously a member of the Board list, where the 2002 schedule was discussed", I was here and observed it all. Although I thought it sort of odd to plan things one year in advance prior to the new officers for the next year, I said nothing because if this is the way SAC has been doing things for years than maybe there is no problem. However, now someone expressed a concern over a May meeting conflict. Simply because I did not express any concerns last year, does that mean I cannot express them now? I do not understand this logic. If there is a problem it can still be addressed in the future. You state "It seems to me that you continually have problems with the way this club is run, yet you do not offer solutions". I have not 'continually' expressed problems with the way the club is run. A member reading your response to me may feel that if they present a problem to SAC they will be labeled as someone 'continually' having problems. This kind of attitude on the part of the club officers is not conducive to getting feedback and improving the club. As for your criticism of me not running 'for office', it is exactly the kinds of personality conflicts as exemplified by this discourse that has deterred me from doing so. Stan