[sac-board] Re: [EVAC Cabinet 2005] All Arizona this or that
- From: gene lucas <geneluca@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: sac-board@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 22:11:12 -0700
Thanks much, Paul, for this in-depth and factual coverage, missing only
the date of Stan Gorodenski's first effort with PAS, which he shared
with me, that I have buried in my files someplace now.
Gene Lucas
(17250)
Paul Dickson wrote:
>On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 12:11:48 -0700 (MST), Dean Ketelsen wrote:
>
>
>
>>Wrong, Wrong, Wrong...
>>
>>The All Arizona Star Party was in fact started by TAAA back in the mid-80s
>>and was held for at least 4-5 times at their Empire Ranch location SE of
>>Tucson. I think when I was on their board, we even had a rather poorly
>>received lecture series on saturday afternoon. I think to appeal more to
>>the Phoenix folk, we agreed to release it to the more current central
>>location in the early '90s.
>>
>>
>
> Date Location
>October 1983 David Levy's House
> " 1984 Buckeye Hills Recreation Area
> " 1985 Empire Ranch
> " 1986 <no mention in SACNews>
> " 1987 Empire Ranch
> " 1988 "in Tucson" ( according to SACNews :-)
> " 1989 <no mention in SACNews>
> " 1990 <no mention in SACNews> EVAC's site mentioned on calendar
> because that page was for SAC, EVAC,
> and PAS newsletters. (see second PS)
> " 1991 Empire Ranch Combined SAC/EVAC star party at
> EVAC's site. First year of GCSP
> " 1992 Arizona City site (about 21 miles from I-10)
> " 1993 "
> " 1994 new Arizona City site (23-24 miles from I-10)
>through present Currently at 3rd "Arizona City site".
>
>My impression was (as a member of SAC, EVAC, and TAAA during the early
>90's) that the All Arizona Star Party was "hosted" rather than "owned" by
>an astronomy club. EVAC was willing to accept the task of hosting the
>event.
>
>During this time frame I was an elected board member of EVAC and the
>newsletter editor for SAC, and soon after the transition I was a member
>of TAAA (attending only the meetings and their restaurant get-togethers
>afterward).
>
>
>The latest series of Messier marathons:
>
> Date Location
>March 1993 Arizona City site
> " 1994 new Arizona City site (south from Silverbell Estate signs,
> turn left instead of the current
> right.)
>through present Currently at 3rd "Arizona City site".
>
>
>Year Marathon Title
>1993 - Arizona Messier Marathon
>1994 "
>1995 "
>1996 - All-Arizona Messier Marathon
>1997 - Arizona Messier Marathon
>1998 "
>1999 "
>2000 "
>2001 - All Arizona Messier Marathon
>2002 "
>2003 "
>2004 "
>2005 "
>
>
>As for both club's using the "All Arizona" moniker: I tried to break A.J.
>of this habit while I was editor of SACNews. Although I did publish the
>1996 marathon as the All-Arizona, all my subsequent editions of SACNews
>had the "Arizona Messier Marathon" (1997 and 1998). Rick Tejera, the
>SACNews editor since 2000, mostly did not care what AJ called the
>marathon and let him do what he liked.
>
>My reason for not wanting to use the "All Arizona" or "All-Arizona"
>moniker was due to my sensitivity of copyright and trademark issues I
>picked up while publishing SACNews. Although the "All Arizona Star
>Party" is not trademarked, that doesn't mean that the Messier marathon
>should use it too.
>
>I wrote a short article about the history All-Arizona Star Party, but I'm
>not current sure if it was published or when.
>
> -Paul
>
>PS A.J.'s reply to Joe's message did not go to the EVAC mailing list.
> I'm including EVAC on this message. A.J.'s reply is at:
> //www.freelists.org/archives/sac-board/04-2005/msg00015.html
>
>PS During the 1990 calendar year, SAC, EVAC, and PAS shared a common
> calendar page done by Pieter Burggraaf.
>
>
>
>
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