[rollei_list] Re: [rolleiusers] Argomania
- From: Laurence Cuffe <cuffe@xxxxxxx>
- To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 16:47:32 -0500
Ah Kodachrome! I'm still running round the house trying to find the last of my
kodachrome to get it processed before the deadline in September next year.
I've already discovered that you get an odd collier palette from it if you
leave it exposed but undeveloped for over five years. I also got an insight
into why kodak might be having problems with their traditional film line, I got
two rolls of developed film in today, which must have been purchased in the US
as opposed to this side of the pond, for I got an invoice looking for payment
in Swiss franks, by Cheque and stating explicitly that no credit cards would be
accepted.
On the issue of the magenta tint, I wonder would it be worth re-photographing
these with a digital camera and a slide copier and the correcting them? I'm
suggesting this as being potentially a much faster workflow than scanning them
as I'm not aware of any fast slide scanners.
My 2c
All the best
Laurence Cuffe
On Monday, January 18, 2010, at 03:19PM, "Allen Zak" <azak@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
>
>On Jan 16, 2010, at 11:48 PM, Richard Knoppow wrote:
>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Goldstein"
>> <egoldste@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 7:00 PM
>> Subject: [rollei_list] Re: [rolleiusers] Argomania
>>
>>
>> Eastman 5247 was the name of the famous long-standing industry
>> standard 35 mm motion picture negative film. I shot my share, usually
>> in an Arriflex. I have no idea what Seattle Film works actually
>> spooled into 35 mm still cassettes...
>>
>> Eric Goldstein
>>
>> --
>> I couldn't remember the number. The same emlusion was available in
>> 16mm stock as 7247 but there were variations since 16mm film is made
>> with both single and double perfs and two different windings of single
>> perf film. I think each of these had a separate number but would have
>> to look at an old Kodak catalogue to be sure. Very confusing.
>> 5247 was balanced for 3200K tungsten but could be used for
>> daylight with the addition of a filter. The idea was that only a
>> single stock was needed and the speed would be optimised for the low
>> level of tungsten where usually daylight has plenty to spare to make
>> up for the filter factor. I think Seattle Film Works corrected the
>> color in the printing because the film did not need a filter to be
>> used in daylight. This probably compromised the color somewhat but one
>> assumes that anyone really fussy would have used dedicated still color
>> film.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Richard Knoppow
>> Los Angeles
>> WB6KBL
>> dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> ---
>
>During mid 1960s until 1975, I used a lot of that stuff. At the time,
>it was an almost ideal color film for me. As a tungsten film, it could
>be used under all lighting conditions with an appropriate filter or let
>the lab do the correction (seldom, my lens usually wore an 85 B
>filter.) Is lower contrast was useful in Southern Calfornia's hard
>sunlight, and helped keep things tucked in when pushed up to 2 stops,
>if necessary. Duplicate slide sets would match perfectly, and best of
>all, it was much cheaper than conventional slide films.
>
>I don't know what kind of processing Seattle Film Works did, but mine
>from RGB Color Lab was usually okay. When I showed slides, viewers
>often commented favorably about the color quality. Also, I never had
>problems getting good quality 4X6 prints from whoever Thrifty Drug used
>for photofinishing, although I had to write frame numbers on my
>selections, since the negative strips were not frame numbered.
>
>Those were good times. Then came the bad. The stock used for slides
>was a product that held up well to strong light, as it was intended for
>theatrical projection, but didn't last long in storage. Before the
>passage of 10 years, all my Eastman 5252/5254/5247 color slides had
>turned distinctly magenta-tinged.
>These slides meant a lot to me, and I can barely bring myself to look
>at them anymore. The only slides from my time in California that have
>retained their color is Kodachrome, whose passing I yet mourn.
>
>The last RGB roll I exposed was on my honeymoon in 1975, and although
>that one is still in progress, the one with Eastman 5247 has definitely
>come to an end.
>
>Allen Zak
>
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