Graham, All my 6000 lenses remain wide open when on or off the camera. The lens only shuts down to chosen/recommended aperture when the stop-down button is depressed; the shutter only closes when the shutter release is depressed or if the mirror-up button is depressed (to prevent light reaching the film once the mirror and blind are swung up). I suspect there may be a fault..... However, if the lens motors are 'latching' solenoids (require a pulse to activate and then they will stay in that position until a second pulse de-activates them, requiring no current to maintain the state change) it is possible that the mirror-up button was depressed on the camera, the lens shutter closed and the lens removed from the camera before the shutter release was depressed allowing the shutter blades to re-open at the end of the cycle. If that is the way the lens motors work, then this could explain your situation. In which case I suspect that the lens would need to be put back on a camera which has had the miror tripped, and then to press the shutter release allowing the shutter to open at the end of that exposure cycle. Personally I would seek the advice of a Rollei repairer and I do not want to try to replicate a closed shutter on my system just in case it ends up as a very expensive repair job. ;-) Best wishes John -----Original Message----- From: rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Graham Mitchell Sent: 11 November 2006 22:46 To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [rollei_list] is this lens faulty? I recently bought my first Rollei 6000 series lens. It's an older HFT type. It looks good but I have no camera to test it with yet (still looking). One thing that seems odd is that the shutter/aperture is closed, so I can't see through the lens. Is this normal when the lens is removed from the camera? --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list