Well, the AE1 was aimed at the consumer market too. However, it sold well. I am not familiar with the Zeiss SLRs, so please excuse me if I appear ignorant here. WHat I remember years back was seeing some Z-I SLRwith leaf shutter lenses that were interchangeable and had 1/500 secs top speed. They were all slow like 50mm 2.8, 135mm F4 os something like that. All I remember is they were Zeiss and out of business. I canno remember the Contarex. Perhaps that was a good camera, but I bet it was not inexpensive. Peter K On 5/26/05, David Seifert <dseifert@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Peter, >=20 > That is a quite unfair comparison. The Contaflex was squarely aimed at > the consumer market. It had interchangeable front sections much like > the Retina IIIc rangefinder camera. The rear group of the Tessar stayed > in place behind the shutter and the front sections were replaced with > either the 35 or 85 Pro-Tessars. Not pro grade at all, although very > nicely finished cameras. >=20 > The Contarex was the be all and end all of the Z-I camera line. It had > a focal plane shutter, instant-return mirror (interestingly though, not > fully automatic diaphram). The lens line was complete (with many quite > fast lenses), to say the least. The 85/1.4 Planar was originally > produced for the Contarex. The Contarex lens line are the exact > designs produced for the Rollei SL35 cameras. The third generation > Contarex design was sold to Rollei at the end and became the SL2000. It > wasn't any attachment to leaf shutters that kept Z-I from competing with > Canon and Nikon, it was price and ergonomics. >=20 > For a full description I recommend Marc's book on the post war > Zeiss-Ikon cameras. >=20 > David >=20 > Peter K. wrote: >=20 > >ContaFLEX. Not ContaREX > > > >On 5/26/05, Richard Knoppow <dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > >>=3D20 > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: "Peter K." <peterk727@xxxxxxxxx> > >>To: <rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >>Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 1:47 PM > >>Subject: [rollei_list] Re: OT - Bokken > >>=3D20 > >>=3D20 > >> > >> > >>>And hence the reason for no F2 in a CF lens since you are > >>>limited by > >>>leaf shutter. One reason Zeiss lost out in the SLR market > >>>in the 70s > >>>if you remember. Thay had great lense but they were very > >>>slow next to > >>>the Nikons and other because they all had leaf shutters in > >>>them. > >>> > >>>Peter K > >>> > >>> >=20 > --- > Rollei List >=20 > - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >=20 > - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' > in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org >=20 > - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with > 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org >=20 > - Online, searchable archives are available at > //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list >=20 >=20 --=20 Peter K =D3=BF=D5=AC --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list