Well then, here are a few numbers: Voigtlander BESSA II (no number on body) Color-Skopar 1:3,5 / 105 (#3242528) Synchro-Compur (#7265165) Contax T3 (#017668) f2.8 / 35mm Sonnar (no number) Contax Aria (#024561) f4/18 D (#6576614) AE/West Germany f2.8/25 D (#7451304) MM/Japan f2.8/35 D (#7945797) MM/Japan f1.4/50 P (#9555080) MM/Japan f1.4/50 P (#6425398) AE/Japan f5/80-200 VS (#7051230) MM/Japan Enjoy, Mike Marc James Small <marcsmall@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: We are not actively indexing the Contax RTS gear yet but we are accumulating the numbers for future analysis. And, yes, I want all "real" Voigtländer numbers, which I forward to yet another researcher, that UK Stalwart, Clive Bubley, of the Voigtländer Verein. And Peter Kitchingman in Australia accumulates Canon RF gear while Mike Symons in Canada amasses Nikon numbers. And there is a fellow in central Pennsylvania -- Fred Shurfe? -- who collects early Asahi Pentax numbers. No, it never ends .... Marc msmall@xxxxxxxxxxxx Cha robh bàs fir gun ghràs fir! Mike Bischof Delhi, India The Photo Blog of my Indian Adventure: http://geocities.com/nbg90455/blog.html __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com