Thank you, Mark. So if I have two such lenses, one with T and one without T, they are basically of equal quality/value. This is good to know. Raid -----Original Message----- From: rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Marc James Small Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 4:16 PM To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [rollei_list] Re: Zeiss Jena 5cm 1.5 Opton At 05:00 PM 9/6/2009, Richard Knoppow wrote: > >Is there an optical/value difference between a Zeiss Jena >5cm 1.5 Opton >T and another lens without the T? >I have one lens with serial number 1127xxx and one with >1137xxx. > >Raid > >the T means the lens is coated using a Zeiss proprietary >multiple coating. I am a little puzzled about the Opton name >since I believe that this was a trade mark required on >lenses made by the West German Zeiss operation for a time. No. The T-mark means that the lens is single coated, and was not used after 1953 or 1954. The T* mark indicates multiple coating and has been used since 1978. (There is also another mark, P* for phase coatings which is used on sports optics and scientific gear as appropriate.) To make a very long story short, Zeiss continued to operate as an entity from 1945 until 1949. The US Army wanted a lens-production facility in their Zone of Operations for the production of lab gear and aerial recon lenses for the impending invasion of Japan, DOWNFALL, just in case the Soviets opted not to join in. So, other plants were used -- Eisfeld and Coburg in 1945 and 1946, while a new facility was developed at Oberkochen. Lenses made there were marked "Zeiss-Opton", the latter part standing for OPTicalische werke ObercocheN. Following the final split between the two Zeiss entities in 1949, Oberkochen claimed the rights to the Zeiss intellectual properties and was awarded these in 1954 by a Dutch court, after which the Zeiss-Opton name was phased out and replaced by "Carl Zeiss". There have been three versions of the 1.5 5cm/50mm Sonnar. The original Jena design remained in production through the War and was to be the design cloned by the Soviets as the ZK and Jupiter-3 lens. There was a mild redesign at Jena around 1948, and the Oberkochen lens is similarly slightly tweaked. There is no practical difference between these designs in use, so I suspect the changes were made to help production economics rather than optical performance. Marc msmall@xxxxxxxxxxxx Cha robh bàs fir gun ghràs fir! --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list