[rollei_list] Re: Zeiss Jena 5cm 1.5 Opton

  • From: "Raid Amin" <ramin@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 16:18:47 -0500

Thank you, Mark. So if I have two such lenses, one with T and one without T, 
they are basically of equal quality/value.
This is good to know.

Raid

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Subject: [rollei_list] Re: Zeiss Jena 5cm 1.5 Opton

At 05:00 PM 9/6/2009, Richard Knoppow wrote:
 >

 >Is there an optical/value difference between a Zeiss Jena
 >5cm 1.5 Opton
 >T and another lens without the T?
 >I have one lens with serial number 1127xxx and one with
 >1137xxx.
 >
 >Raid
 >

 >the T means the lens is coated using a Zeiss proprietary
 >multiple coating. I am a little puzzled about the Opton name
 >since I believe that this was a trade mark required on
 >lenses made by the West German Zeiss operation for a time.

No.  The T-mark means that the lens is single 
coated, and was not used after 1953 or 1954.  The 
T* mark indicates multiple coating and has been 
used since 1978.  (There is also another mark, P* 
for phase coatings which is used on sports optics 
and scientific gear as appropriate.)

To make a very long story short, Zeiss continued 
to operate as an entity from 1945 until 
1949.  The US Army wanted a lens-production 
facility in their Zone of Operations for the 
production of lab gear and aerial recon lenses 
for the impending invasion of Japan, DOWNFALL, 
just in case the Soviets opted not to join 
in.  So, other plants were used -- Eisfeld and 
Coburg in 1945 and 1946, while a new facility was 
developed at Oberkochen.  Lenses made there were 
marked "Zeiss-Opton", the latter part standing 
for OPTicalische werke ObercocheN.  Following the 
final split between the two Zeiss entities in 
1949, Oberkochen claimed the rights to the Zeiss 
intellectual properties and was awarded these in 
1954 by a Dutch court, after which the 
Zeiss-Opton name was phased out and replaced by "Carl Zeiss".

There have been three versions of the 1.5 
5cm/50mm Sonnar.  The original Jena design 
remained in production through the War and was to 
be the design cloned by the Soviets as the ZK and 
Jupiter-3 lens.  There was a mild redesign at 
Jena around 1948, and the Oberkochen lens is 
similarly slightly tweaked.  There is no 
practical difference between these designs in 
use, so I suspect the changes were made to help 
production economics rather than optical performance.

Marc


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