richard, can you post that reply again? i'm reasonably sure i deciphering it correctly, but. . . . On 7/27/10, Richard Knoppow <dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marc James Small" <marcsmall@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 12:38 PM > Subject: [rollei_list] Re: XTOL Mix-It-Yourself Formula > > > At 02:46 PM 7/27/2010, Richard Knoppow wrote: > > > I think you can get all the ingredients for the powder > >formula given in the Xtol patents from Photographer's > >Formulary. > > They are not. The MSDS formula requires > > Diethylenetriaminepentaacetic acid pentasodium salt > > > and > > > 4-hydroxymethyl-4-methyl-1-phenyl-3-pyrazolidinone > > > Not exactly garden-variety chemicals of the sort > Photographers' Formulary stocks. Again, this > would be Fisher Scientific sort of thing, if even they stock > these. > > Marc > > > The second is Kodak Dimezone, a variation of Phenidone. > Photographer's Formulary has it in three sizes, the smallest > is 10grams for $4.95. This stuff is used in fractional grams > per liter. The second is a sequestering agent, the > Formulary does not have DPTA, not sure where to get it but I > think the developer will work without it. Its a sequestering > agent for minerals in the water so if you use distilled > water you can probably do without it. J.T.Baker stocks it > but only in much larger than practical quantities and at too > high a price. > > -- > Richard Knoppow > Los Angeles, CA, USA > dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > --- > Rollei List > > - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' > in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > > - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with > 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > > - Online, searchable archives are available at > //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list > > --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list