[rollei_list] Re: Whiteface T with Xenar question
- From: "Peter K." <peterk727@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 08:28:13 -0800
Wow! What a thread you started. Sanders, they are probably 99% identical.
Coatings developed by Schneider would be the major difference IMO as they
are the hardest to duplicate. By the 70s Schneider had much better and
harder coatings. Their coatings of the 50s were not nearly as good or as
hard as later years.
So the short answer, yes.
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 12:06 PM, <sanders@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I just won a Whiteface T, a very late model
> (s/n T2316742) and to my surprise it sports
> a Xenar taking lens -- not the reformulated
> Tessar that I had expected. Did the Xenars
> of the 1970s make any improvements on their
> 1950s-era forebears? Any thoughts about
> the Xenars on late Ts would be appreciated.
>
> Sanders
>
>
>
>
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> Subject: rollei_list Digest V5 #64
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> rollei_list Digest Tue, 17 Mar 2009 Volume: 05 Issue: 064
>
> In This Issue:
> [rollei_list] Re: Franke & Heidecke bankruptcy (continued)
> [rollei_list] Re: Franke & Heidecke bankruptcy (continued)
> [rollei_list] Rollei Photo Gallery
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 19:13:57 +0100
> From: Emmanuel Bigler <Emmanuel.Bigler@xxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [rollei_list] Re: Franke & Heidecke bankruptcy (continued)
>
> There has been a new article on photoscala.de about the insolvency of
> F&H. The title of the article "sic tranit gloria mundi" is a good
> summary :-((
> http://photoscala.de/Artikel/Sic-transit-gloria-mundi-0
> Nothing really new; but this time I am really _not_ optimistic since
> apparently F&H rented their buildings and even certain machines. F&H
> does not hold the Rollei trademarks and the photogrammetric division has
> been sold to another company. So if nobody supports F&H with contracts,
> the company can stop very quickly.
>
> Really sad if you read all the F&H optimistic presse releases of the
> year 2008... too optimistic ? may be the product line was not completely
> ready, so no real sales, no real cash entering the company...
> and probably also, the current banking difficulties put an abrupt end to
> the story... like for many other companies (times are extremely hard in
> the automotive industries on both sides of the Atlantic...)
>
> Sinar has announced as reported on a Swiss photo web site...
>
> http://www.fotointern.ch/archiv/2009/03/17/sinar-wie-weiter-nach-der-insolvenz-von-franke-heidecke/
> ...that the (probable) demise of the HY6 project will not prevent them
> to continue with other products like the Artec digital view camera.
>
>
> By a _very_ unpleasant coincidence, the editor (Henry Peyre) of
> galerie-photo.info, my favourite web site dealing with MF and LF
> photography, had decided to prepare a special issue on the Rollei TLR
> for MArch 09...
> for those who can read French, this is the list of articles including an
> essay by myself on the "Rollei TLR as a symbol" (le rolleiflex et son
> image)
>
> "The Rollei TLR and its image (as a symbol)" by E. Bigler
> http://www.galerie-photo.com/rolleiflex-image.html
>
> "Questions asked by future Rollei TLR owners", a digest of the
> galerie-photo.info forum by H. Peyre
> http://www.galerie-photo.com/acheter-rolleiflex_questions.html
>
> "The rollei tlr slide projection attachement" by J.P. Sion
> http://www.galerie-photo.com/rollei-bi-projecteur-convertible.html
>
> "My Rolleiflexes" by R. Mouginaot
> http://www.galerie-photo.com/rolleiflex-remi-mouginot.html
>
> "Does it make sense to buy a Rollei TLR in 2009 ?" by H. Peyre
> http://www.galerie-photo.com/acheter-rolleiflex.html
>
> "Comparison of image quality : canon EOS 5Dmk2 vs. Rolleiflex 3.5F
> xenotar" by H. Peyre
>
> http://www.galerie-photo.com/comparatif-rolleiflex-35F-xenotar-canon-5dmk2.html
>
> -----------
>
> If I have time I'll try to translate my essay... with the hope that it
> not the end of the story for Rollei / F&H / cameras !
> --
> Emmanuel
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 11:37:51 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Carlos Manuel Freaza <cmfreaza@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [rollei_list] Re: Franke & Heidecke bankruptcy (continued)
>
>
> Mmm...this article approach looks different:
>
>
> http://www.pdnpulse.com/2009/03/medium-panic-leaf-responds-to-franke-heidecke-insolvency.html
>
> Anyway this week F&H bankruptcy will have a referee and will see, as the
> Photoscala article says.
>
> Carlos
>
>
> --- El mar 17-mar-09, Emmanuel Bigler <Emmanuel.Bigler@xxxxxxxx> escribió:
>
> > De: Emmanuel Bigler <Emmanuel.Bigler@xxxxxxxx>
> > Asunto: [rollei_list] Re: Franke & Heidecke bankruptcy (continued)
> > Para: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Fecha: martes, 17 de marzo de 2009, 3:13 pm
> > There has been a new article on photoscala.de about the
> > insolvency of F&H. The title of the article "sic
> > tranit gloria mundi" is a good summary :-((
> > http://photoscala.de/Artikel/Sic-transit-gloria-mundi-0
> > Nothing really new; but this time I am really _not_
> > optimistic since apparently F&H rented their buildings
> > and even certain machines. F&H does not hold the Rollei
> > trademarks and the photogrammetric division has been sold to
> > another company. So if nobody supports F&H with
> > contracts, the company can stop very quickly.
> >
> > Really sad if you read all the F&H optimistic presse
> > releases of the year 2008... too optimistic ? may be the
> > product line was not completely ready, so no real sales, no
> > real cash entering the company...
> > and probably also, the current banking difficulties put an
> > abrupt end to the story... like for many other companies
> > (times are extremely hard in the automotive industries on
> > both sides of the Atlantic...)
> >
> > Sinar has announced as reported on a Swiss photo web
> > site...
> >
> http://www.fotointern.ch/archiv/2009/03/17/sinar-wie-weiter-nach-der-insolvenz-von-franke-heidecke/
> > ...that the (probable) demise of the HY6 project will not
> > prevent them to continue with other products like the Artec
> > digital view camera.
> >
> >
> > By a _very_ unpleasant coincidence, the editor (Henry
> > Peyre) of galerie-photo.info, my favourite web site dealing
> > with MF and LF photography, had decided to prepare a special
> > issue on the Rollei TLR for MArch 09...
> > for those who can read French, this is the list of articles
> > including an essay by myself on the "Rollei TLR as a
> > symbol" (le rolleiflex et son image)
> >
> > "The Rollei TLR and its image (as a symbol)" by
> > E. Bigler http://www.galerie-photo.com/rolleiflex-image.html
> >
> > "Questions asked by future Rollei TLR owners", a
> > digest of the galerie-photo.info forum by H. Peyre
> > http://www.galerie-photo.com/acheter-rolleiflex_questions.html
> >
> > "The rollei tlr slide projection attachement" by
> > J.P. Sion
> > http://www.galerie-photo.com/rollei-bi-projecteur-convertible.html
> >
> > "My Rolleiflexes" by R. Mouginaot
> > http://www.galerie-photo.com/rolleiflex-remi-mouginot.html
> >
> > "Does it make sense to buy a Rollei TLR in 2009
> > ?" by H. Peyre
> > http://www.galerie-photo.com/acheter-rolleiflex.html
> >
> > "Comparison of image quality : canon EOS 5Dmk2 vs.
> > Rolleiflex 3.5F xenotar" by H. Peyre
> >
> http://www.galerie-photo.com/comparatif-rolleiflex-35F-xenotar-canon-5dmk2.html
> >
> > -----------
> >
> > If I have time I'll try to translate my essay... with
> > the hope that it not the end of the story for Rollei /
> > F&H / cameras !
> > --
> > Emmanuel
> >
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 18:39:34 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Jim Boy <marinerx2@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [rollei_list] Rollei Photo Gallery
>
> >> Years ago iirc Ferdi set up a Rollei photo gallery for list members
> >> to show their pics taken with Rolleis. What is the status of that
> >> gallery? I remember liking a number of Sander's photos.
> Unknown command.
> >> David Chananie
>
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