[rollei_list] Re: WTB: SL66 thingies

  • From: "Richard Knoppow" <dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 18:39:51 -0700


----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Goldstein" <egoldste@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 4:50 PM
Subject: [rollei_list] Re: WTB: SL66 thingies



I think I'm hearing an echo? :-)

The SL66 is a retrofocus type. The TLR Planar isn't. Neither of these
lenses is symetrical, so that particular point does not apply in this
instance...


Eric Goldstein


Perhaps there is a misunderstanding about what "symmetrical" means in a lens. The TLR Planar and Xenotar are not perfectly symmetrical but are essentially so despite the odd number of elements. If one considers the cemented component in one side as a single element the symmetry becomes more clear. A lens like a Tessar is not symmetrical because the two halves have different signs. The front combination is negative, the rear positive, so there is no cancellation of lateral aberrations. In a lens like the Xenotar both halves are positive so there is some cancellation. Lenses with similar construction but different power in the two halves, like the familiar Biotar, are also essentially symmetrical. Actually, the shift in power from exact symmetry is made to try to match the shift in symmetry of the object and image distances and improve the symmetry of the entire system where object and image distances are not equal.
Because of the strong negative element introduced at one end in either a telephoto or reverse telephoto (retrofocus) lens the two halves become quite unsymmetrical even though the "inside" lens of one or the other (more common for retrofocus lenses) is essentially symmetrical.
Complete symmetry of the optical system, including equal object and image distances, automatically cancels lateral color (difference in color magnification), geometrical distortion, and coma. Even when a completely symmetrical lens, like a Dagor, is used for objects at infinity, the cancellation of these aberrations is substantial. All can be corrected in non-symmetrical lenses but it takes more effort on the part of the designer and may not be complete. For instance, The Commercial Ektar, a Tessar type lens, is very well corrected for lateral color, but still has some coma and must be stopped down 2 or 3 stops to get rid of it: something which is typical of Tessar lenses. Coma can still exist in symmetrical lenses, again like the Dagor, but is minimal. This is not to say the Dagor is perfect, it isn't at all, having a set of vices all its own, but those are aberrations that are not affected by symmetry.


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Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles, CA, USA
dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx


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