Ruddy, I HOPE that you are done after that one. You will be for me as I have placed you on my FILTER list. You have joined the argumentative Argy, as two of the three on my list. Bye bye now, Jerry Ruddy Roye wrote: > I AM DONE AFTER THAT LAST ONE > I THINK I SAID ALL I HAD TO SAY. > I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT ANYONE BUT I HOPE WE SHOOT BETTER THAN WE SPEAK > OUT MINDS. > IN MY LITTLE EXPERIENCE AS A MAN AND PHOTOGRAPHER I HAVE LEARNT THAT > YOU CANNOT SEPARATE THE TWO SO......WE SHOOT HOW WE THINK > On Oct 18, 2005, at 5:18 PM, John Jensen wrote: > > > Boy, the way this discourse is going I don't think I > > will ever use B/W film again, particularly high-speed > > (greater sensitivity to light). > > > > John > > > > P.S. Perhaps we should end this thread. The last > > time was when it was Democrat/Republican, > > liberal/conservative and we had several people pick up > > their marbles and go elsewhere. > > > > --- Ruddy Roye <leicauser503@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > > >> Maan as my blood boiled, this email came and rescued > >> me. > >> I am black, and tho I do not need anyone to remind > >> me of that fact, I > >> do expect if nothing else, my feelings as a fellow > >> member of this chat > >> group are respected. > >> As a photog I do not expect everyone to get what I > >> shoot. I can be > >> political in my ideologies and yet someone might > >> come behind me and go > >> hmmm bah humbug. Its cool because what is important > >> to you might not > >> be important to me however, as a human being I know > >> that there are > >> things that have happened to people that I should > >> not repeat > >> insensitively. I do not think that it is being > >> politically correct or > >> incorrect, its just respect. > >> I shoot to tell stories, but I also do so to teach, > >> exchange ideas, > >> show shared and varying ideas. All in all, > >> photography has always > >> brought me to places that have changed my outlook on > >> the world. As a > >> news photographer, I travel extensively to approach > >> photography from a > >> different spiritual experience. The way I > >> photograph in New York is > >> different from how I would photograph in say Brazil > >> or Iran. > >> I do not expect that bigotry or racism will look the > >> same as it did > >> 50-60 years ago. I do not even expect it to go > >> away. These days men > >> and women hide behind their friends and those who > >> support their > >> insensitivity, they hide behind blogs and chat > >> groups and they hide > >> behind their cameras because they for some reason > >> believe that the > >> curse of being black will rub off on them. > >> I believe a MAN SHOULD feel for his fellow man. If > >> I say I hurt, he > >> should want to know why. When this same man prefers > >> instead to stand > >> on the grounds that cause my pain, he says a lot > >> about himself, his > >> family and his ancestors. But what would I know. > >> Black people were > >> once thought to be uneducated duds who were only > >> good for one thing, > >> slavery, building the world, raping, and of course > >> (Doug and BOB)when > >> you were done with them lynch them on the weekend. > >> "That usually bring > >> the mob out......." > >> On Oct 18, 2005, at 4:29 PM, Douglas Shea wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> Google is the last, not the first place I would > >> turn to for etymology. > >>> > >>> Doug > >>> > >>> > >>> From: rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>> [mailto:rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > >> Behalf Of > >>> RALaubach@xxxxxxx > >>> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 2:09 PM > >>> To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>> Subject: [rollei_list] Re: WARNING about Dr. Mark > >> Meijer c/o Global > >>> RolleiClub and... > >>> > >>> nothing political about it at all -- POLITE tho, > >> not politically > >>> correct or incorrect - nothing wrong with being > >> sensitive to others. > >>> And regardless of the political leanings of > >> Lynchburg or the Lynch > >>> brothers or any dictionary definition, i think it > >> is clear that the > >>> general association of the word lynching is with > >> african-americans and > >>> totally understand the gentleman's reaction and > >> simple wish to be > >>> respected. If you google the word lynching, note > >> that all of the > >>> photos depict african-americans. note the > >> following google entry > >>> about lynching - > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> The term lynching probably derived from the name > >> Charles Lynch > >>> (1736-96), a justice of the peace who administered > >> rough justice in > >>> Virginia. Lynching was originally a system of > >> punishment used by > >>> whites against African American slaves. However, > >> whites who protested > >>> against this were also in danger of being lynched. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> so lynching may apply to whites also, but against > >> those whites who > >>> protested against the lynching of african > >> americans. > >>> > >>> so for y'all who have an argument with Dr. Rollei > >> Scammer, go ahead > >>> and mob him, whatever - just leave history in the > >> past > >>> > >> www.royephotography.com > >> Portrait and Editorial Photographer > >> > >> --- > >> Rollei List > >> > >> - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> > >> - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> with 'subscribe' > >> in the subject field OR by logging into > >> www.freelists.org > >> > >> - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> with > >> 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging > >> into www.freelists.org > >> > >> - Online, searchable archives are available at > >> //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list > >> > >> > > > > --- > > Rollei List > > > > - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' > > in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > > > > - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with > > 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > > > > - Online, searchable archives are available at > > //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list > > > > > www.royephotography.com > Portrait and Editorial Photographer > > --- > Rollei List > > - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' > in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > > - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with > 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > > - Online, searchable archives are available at > //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list