At 01:33 PM 9/23/05 -0700, Richard Knoppow wrote: > Up to WW-2 Schneider seems to have made low price lenses. >While they had a few original types they mostly built >existing designs where the patents had expired. Richard This really is not the case, as a quick examination of your copy of THE LENS COLLECTOR'S VADE MECUM will show. Schneider was always interested in the production of quality lenses and did so with some prominence before the outbreak of the Second World War. In fact, circumstances had reached a level where Schneider was forced to establish a second factory in 1937 for the production of less-capable lenses, the ISCO (I for J: Jospeph Schneider Company) works at Göttingen and even that plant was called on to produce quality lenses during the War such as the lens used on the camera which would become the progenitor of the Hasselblad MF SLR. I will concede that the Zeiss lens mavens regarded Voigtländer as their principal rivals in those Prewar years but they were must anxious to keep Schneider out of the marketplace. It was only the falling-out between Dr Nagel and the Zeiss Foundation which gave Schneider an opportunity to sell first-class lenses for a first-class camera, the Kodak AG Retina. Records to confirm this no longer exist but I would suspect that Zeiss did everything in its power to keep Schneider from selling to the likes of Franke & Heidecke. Schneider was part of the consortium which produced the Xenon lens for the Leica camera in 1935, along with Taylor, Taylor, and Hobson and Leitz. I will cheerfully acknowledge that this lens was not as capable as was the CZJ Sonnar, but the design was still a solid design and would survive in various forms into the first version of the Leitz Summilux in 1962, not a bad record. Marc msmall@xxxxxxxxxxxx Cha robh bàs fir gun ghràs fir! NEW FAX NUMBER: +540-343-8505 --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list