2010/8/9 Marc James Small <marcsmall@xxxxxxxxxxx>: > I am surprised by the ignorance of Schott on this List, as EVERY Rollei TLR > camera yet made has come with Schott glass. Schott is the heavy-hitter in > optical glass, and even Hoya makes their glasses to fit the needs of the > Schott Catalogue, the industry standard. Marc: Since you wrote about the ignorance of Schott on this List, I must say some of this list members and former members had an intense thread about Schott and Zeiss and Rollei and Hoya and Ohara in 2006, I believed it was on this list but it happened in other forum, I even obtained an answer from Prochnow for one of the issues in discussion, the thread and some of the messages are so large I couldn't copy them here, these are some samples: --- El mar 25-jul-06, Carlos Manuel Freaza <cmfreaza@xxxxxxxxxxxx> escribió: > Schott also publish the Schott Glass > Catalog, which is > a standard reference for the properties of the many > optical glasses produced by them and other companies. > > Carlos ------------------------------------------------------------- Mr. Prochnows answer: "..For the 35 models: The glass for these lenses, which were made in Germany, has been delivered by Schott; this is also the matter with MOST the lenses, which were made in Singapore. Certainly the quality of all the lens-materials were the same. The glass were bought all over the world. In this case it was possible that some glass-parts has been bought from Hoya. The lense-parts were made from "Presslingen" (glass blancs, cut out off a roll of glass). The Schneider Xenar-lenses for the Rollei 35 were made by Schneider in Kreuznach, certain from German glass and Presslingen. The lenses for the SL35 etc. were made in Geramny after 1981 (Rollei and Zeiss) and when requested also sold via the Singapore branche. The Pricelist must show these circumstances. With many greetings, Claus Prochnow" ---------------------------------------------------- "Kornelius J. Fleischer , jul 06, 2000; 02:46 a.m. Come and see for yourself! This is what I have seen with my eyes: Rollei really operates their own lens element production at their headquarters in Braunschweig, Germany - everything included. And it is a pretty modern one, using the same advanced machines that Zeiss uses in their new lens element production facility. The optical glass is purchased from Schott Glass Works (belonging to the Zeiss Foundation) and other sources. Production and assembly is carried out according to Zeiss specifications. Original Zeiss measuring equipment is used at the Rollei lens manufacturing site for quality assurance. Rollei makes an older Distagon 4/50, an older Planar 2,8/80 for SLR, a Planar 2,8/80 for TLR, a current Sonnar 4/150, and a current Sonnar 5,6/250. I have tested their Sonnar lenses and compared with the current Zeiss versions for Hasselblad: They perform exactly the same. I also have their Distagon 4/50 and the Planar 2,8/80 and use these with Rolleiflex 6008i and 6001 cameras. They deliver professional results. Those lenses in the Rollei range that bear the name Carl Zeiss are actally made alongside the same types for Hasselblad at Zeiss Oberkochen. Ideally, the optical systems should be exactly the same. But since the Rollei shutter device is much bigger than the Prontor shutter in the Hasselblad lenses, taking space with metal where glass can be in the Hasselblad version, modifications are needed in some cases. So not all lenses elements can be exactly identical." ------------------------------------------------------ WIKIPEDIA REDIRECTED FROM SCHOTT GLASS: Schott Glass From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (Redirected from Schott AG) Jump to: navigation, search Schott Glass AG is a manufacturer of high-quality industrial glass products, such as fiber-optics and components used in flat panel displays. They are well known by the photographic community for manufacturing the glass components of Zeiss and Schneider Kreuznach lenses as well as B+W filters. They also publish the Schott Glass Catalog, which is a standard reference for the properties of the many optical glasses produced by them and other companies. The company was founded in 1884 at Jena, Germany as the Glastechnische Laboratorium Schott & Genossen by Otto Schott, Ernst Abbe, Carl Zeiss and Roderich Zeiss. The company later changed its name to Jenaer Glaswerk Schott & Genossen. After the Second World War, the company was forced to relocate to Mainz in West Germany as the Schott Glaswerke AG after the headquarters in Jena was taken over by the communist East German government and became the Jena Glaswerke VEB. After the German reunification, Schott Glaswerke AG acquired Jena Glaswerke VEB to become a single company again. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schott_AG ------------------------------------------------------- FROM CARL ZEISS SITE (Lens Production Vritual Tour) We purchase our optical glass preferably from the Schott Glass Works. Of particular importance here are the optical properties of the different glass materials and their tolerances. When choosing our suppliers, we also take into account their delivery capabilities and delivery times, their prices and the environmental soundness of their products. In our optical production, we currently process 114 types of optical glass with different refractive indices, color dispersion, weight, etc. This results in a spectrum of approx. 350 different types of lens elements with approx. 700 different radii. Each lens consists of several optical glass materials and crystals, with some almost as heavy as steel and others more expensive than gold." ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Carlos --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list