[rollei_list] Re: Rolleigrid

  • From: "Evan Dong" <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> (Redacted sender "ejdong@xxxxxxxxx" for DMARC)
  • To: "rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2014 00:47:33 +0000 (UTC)

Carlos,
That dealer is rascal. Another day for that story.
That screen is NOT a Rolligrid. I have plenty of RolleiGrid drop-in screens and 
it dies what it can for me. The RolleiGrid is a drop in fresnel screen to 
enhance the original ground glass screens or the first generation plastic 
focusing scrrens by Rolleiflex. 

eBay Auction:   271701375806 is an actual "Plastic" Ground Glass Screen which 
use the gridline pattern through out. There is NO Central Spot magnifier nor 
any Split Image wedge finder. Just a plain fresnel screen with a gridline 
pattern etched into it. This scrren is NOT a first generation plastic focusing 
screen. Guessing it by it clarity, I would think its one of the last generation 
of the plastic focusing screen such as that used in the Rolleiflex T and all 
other REMOVABLE Screen Rolleiflex. Its rather hard to describe, till you have 
it in your hand. 

However it has the micro fresnel surface beneath it to help with light 
gathering and allows for the "Snap - To" Contrast Gain.   

In addition, I just had some special Mamiya RB67 screens cut down to Rolleiflex 
REMOVABLE Screen size and etched with grid line pattern. Rick Oleson did it for 
me and he likes the quality of the screen. I will be testing it out and if it 
works, I will try to help him obtain some quantity..

 

     On Sunday, December 21, 2014 7:16 PM, CarlosMFreaza <cmfreaza@xxxxxxxxx> 
wrote:
   

 Hello Evan:                 Thank you for your message. I bought my Rolleigrid 
from a seller off auction sites. There is a significant difference between the 
item you mentioned in eBay and my Rolleigrid: 1) The eBay item 271701375806 
does not have the central circle without the Fresnel lens that allows critical 
focusing using the ground glass directly, mine has it;  2) The sleeve in the 
item you mentioned is black and the word "Rolleigrid" is not visible in the 
photographs, mine has the typical reddish/brownish sleeve (and the F&H box too) 
with the word "Rolleigrid" and "Germany", the eBay item says "Made in Germany". 
They are not the same screen.
I compared the Rolleigrid on the 2.8C GG with the original Rollei Clear 
focusing screen with split image in my 3.5F viewfinder. Image brightness, 
contrast and details look identical for any lighting situation, except the 
central circle for the Rolleigrid. I waited for these results since the 
removable Rollei Clear is a Fresnel and GG combo that replaced the 
GG+Rolleigrid combo at the time.
Carlos
    
2014-12-21 20:07 GMT-03:00 Evan Dong <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>:

Carlos,
You may want to look into these limited Plastic Ground "Glass" Screen offered 
by Rolleiflex at one point. 
Those screens listed (see eBay Auction #) are authentic Rolleiflex screen for 
the non-removable models.
Below is the auction from the same guy that offered the Type 2 screen. Just be 
aware!
eBay Auction:   271701375806
I bought several of these here in NY Vinicity off of eBay. The seller had a 
photo store that went out of business. I bought them for $20 each.. 

Planning on installing them into a 1949 Rolleiflex Automat Standard and several 
other camera bodies: 3.5 B (10 blade)  & MX-EVS Type 1 & 2.
Viewing through them in open light, it is identical to the later Removable 
Rolleiflex screen. 


Hope this will be of some help to you.
Evan 

     On Sunday, December 21, 2014 5:37 PM, CarlosMFreaza <cmfreaza@xxxxxxxxx> 
wrote:
   

 2014-12-21 2:18 GMT-03:00 Richard Knoppow <dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>:


----- Original Message ----- From: "CarlosMFreaza" <cmfreaza@xxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2014 3:34 PM
Subject: [rollei_list] Re: Rolleigrid



including the corners. The Rolleigrid does not require to adjust the main
focusing screen as you wrote; you put it on the ground glass and it's ready
to use.  I'll buy another Rolleigrid for the 'cord IV when I have a chance
to do it.

Carlos


   It makes a more noticeable difference on the 'cord because of the slower 
finder lens.

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Yes Richard, I put the Rolleigrid on the 'cord IV ground glass and the image is 
clearly brighter and more uniform regarding light distribution. The difference 
f3.2 vs f 2.8  'cord vs 'flex viewfinder lens is not perceptible for daylight 
(at least it's my experience with the IV vs 2.8C), however it becomes 
noticeable indoors or under difficult lighting conditions, but I think lenses 
luminosity is not a "dramatic" difference anyway.

The Rolleigrid was manufactured from July 1953 up to 1961. I "discovered" two 
Rolleigrid types (at least they are not separately described in my Rollei 
literature, including Prochnow); one of them, "type 1", has the marks on the 
edges and corners to secure it with the elements in the camera viewfinder (used 
to secure the Rolleikin mask); "type 2" does not have these marks, it only lies 
on the ground glass as a gravity matter, my Rolleigrid belongs to the second 
type. These are samples for each type:
Type 1:eBay item  121517421514
Type 2:eBay item 281536069360

Carlos



  
    

 


    



   

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