[rollei_list] Re: Rolleiflex 35mm Cameras
- From: CarlosMFreaza <cmfreaza@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 12:49:49 -0300
Yes Austin, I know that the calculator is correct, what's the point?
Carlos
2009/11/10, Austin Franklin <austin.franklin@xxxxxxxxxxx>:
> Hi Carlos,
>
> The calculator is correct. You're either missing the point, or an
> understanding of the point. I must admit, I'm a bit surprised.
>
> Regards,
>
> Austin
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of CarlosMFreaza
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 10:36 AM
> > To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [rollei_list] Re: Rolleiflex 35mm Cameras
> >
> >
> > Eric, I showed you a real DOF calculator for the real photographic
> > world that I have used a lot of times with constant results for
> > photographs that I can also show, this the practice of photography, be
> > happy with your theories.
> >
> > Carlos
> >
> >
> > 2009/11/10, Eric Goldstein <egoldste@xxxxxxxxx>:
> > > Read and learn, Carlos:
> > >
> > > http://www.normankoren.com/Tutorials/MTF6.html#DOF_focal_length
> > >
> > > http://www.luminous-landscape.com/tutorials/dof2.shtml
> > >
> > >
> > > Eric Goldstein
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 9:59 AM, CarlosMFreaza
> > <cmfreaza@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > I'm afraid you are wrong Eric, DOF is purely a function of aperture
> > > > for a given lens (and given frame size), but if the lens focal length
> > > > changes the DOF also changes if keeping constant f stop and circle of
> > > > confusion size . You could play with this DOF calculator changing only
> > > > the lens focal length and you'll see the way the real DOF area also
> > > > changes:
> > > > http://www.dofmaster.com/dofjs.html
> > > > Carlos
> > > >
> > > > 2009/11/10, Eric Goldstein <egoldste@xxxxxxxxx>:
> > > >> It can be argued that DOF is purely a function of aperture
> > and not FL.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Eric Goldstein
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >>
> > > >> On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 9:32 AM, CarlosMFreaza
> > <cmfreaza@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > >> > Well, "any" camera is a term general too much. DOF has to do first
> > > >> > with the lens focal length and the frame size and the circle of
> > > >> > confusion size you consider acceptable and second with the
> > f stop; you
> > > >> > could stop down a 300mm lens for a 6x9 format at f11 or 16 (to say
> > > >> > something) and you could still have more deeper DOF with
> > the Rollei 35
> > > >> > at f3.5, my point was that the Rollei 35 Tessar has a
> > reasonable DOF
> > > >> > and sharpness even wide open if you focus close to your desired
> > > >> > focusing point, in other words, it is not necessary a
> > telemeter under
> > > >> > these conditions, perhaps this was not the topic central
> > axis but it
> > > >> > has to do with some messages I read in the thread.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > BTW, the "universal" camera does not exist yet, if you know your
> > > >> > tools, you also know where and why to use them.-
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Carlos
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > 2009/11/10, Marvin <marvin0@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> > > >> >> I think you missed the point Carlos, it's possible to
> > stop the lens down and
> > > >> >> have a large depth of field with just about any camera,
> > but that doesn't
> > > >> >> afford the individual much control. That's the problem
> > with the 35.
> > > >> >> Marvin.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> >> From: rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >> >> [mailto:rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> > CarlosMFreaza
> > > >> >> Sent: 10 November 2009 17:01
> > > >> >> To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >> >> Subject: [rollei_list] Re: Rolleiflex 35mm Cameras
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> I rarely had problems guessing the distance with the
> > Rollei 35, these
> > > >> >> two samples were taken during a travel, with the Tessar
> > wide open, 3,5
> > > >> >> 1/30 shutter speed and camera hand-held, the film was a
> > Kodak Ultra
> > > >> >> 400. The DOF is still deep at f 3.5 and the camera light
> > meter worked
> > > >> >> right.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/itarfoto/1433112977/
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/itarfoto/1456649900/
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Carlos
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