[rollei_list] Re: Rolleicord Vb type, Rollei "school "case and clarification
- From: Carlos Manuel Freaza <cmfreaza@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2006 21:22:17 +0000 (GMT)
A clarification about the "addendum" below, from 1965
to 1970 Rollei sold to schools and similars a special
case dedicated to the Rolleicord Vb with accesories or
Rolleiflex T with accesories, this case was called
Rollei "School" case, Rollei sold the empty case and
the school purchased the Rollei elements for the case
(camera,Mikro tubus, rolleinars, filters,
etc.)according their budget from Rollei authorized
sellers. The camera and accesories for the Rollei
School case had a special price for schools.
I confused this special "School" case with the also
special case for the 1965-1967 Phillips equipment, the
Rollei School case could be provided with black
Rolleicords Vb or Rolleiflexes T, the Phillips
equipment case with the gray Rolleicord Vb only.
The Rollei "School" case is almost impossible to find
today and it became a very appreciated and expensive
item for collectors.-
All the best
Carlos
--- Carlos Manuel Freaza <cmfreaza@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
escribió:
> I add now that despite most Rolleicord Vb included
> in
> the Phillips equipment were gray, there were some
> black Rolleicord Vb for this equipment and
> Rolleiflex
> T were used too.
> The Rolleicord Vb "Polizei" was gray.
>
> All the best
> Carlos
>
>
>
> --- Carlos Manuel Freaza <cmfreaza@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> escribió:
>
> > I wrote about the Phillips and Polaroid versions
> > last
> > year, this is the copy from my message:
> >
> > "1)There was a pre-war Phillips version from 1939,
> a
> > Rolleicord II with Triotar 3.5/75 lens, this
> camera
> > could take 24 6x3 frames using masks.
> >
> > 2)From 1957 there was a Phillips kit available to
> > use
> > with roll-film: A Phototube, two special
> Rolleinar
> > 4
> > B I, 120 film masks 28x40mm for 24 exposures and
> > 40x55mm for 16 exposures. The Rolleinar 4 did not
> > have
> > parallax compensation allowing photographs between
> > 25
> > to 20 cm. Prochnow shows a Rolleicord Va using
> this
> > kit.-
> >
> > 3)Starting 1962 Rollei modified 20 Rolleicord V to
> > adapt the Polaroid back and to fit the Rolleicopi
> > for
> > the viewfinder to compensate the different focus
> for
> > the Polaroid back. This version was developed to
> > avoid
> > to wait the film development and contact print
> time
> > and due to the different focal plane for the
> > Polaroid
> > back it was not necessary to use the Rolleinar 4.-
> >
> > 4)From 1965 to 1967 there were two different kits
> > available: The complete Phillips case sold by
> > Phillips
> > containing the film and the Polaroid kit more the
> > Rolleicord Vb camera (including two different size
> > frames to join the Phototube to the Oscillograph
> > screen and the Rolleicopi of course) and the
> little
> > Rollei kit sold by Rollei; this kit included the
> > Rolleicopi, the Polaroid back and a mask for the
> > viewfinder screen only(not the Phillips phototube)
> > and
> > it was aimed to macrophotography for Rolleiflex
> and
> > Rolleicord cameras in general without Rolleinar
> and
> > with Polaroid film. This kit allowed macro
> > photographs
> > from 22 to 19cm with 75mm lenses, 24 to 21 cm with
> > 80mm lenses and 66-58cm with the Tele-Rolleiflex
> and
> > then the Polaroid back and the Rolleicopi also
> could
> > be used for macrophotography as well for the
> > Rolleiflex and Rolleicord with removable hood.-
> >
> > All the best
> > Carlos"
> >
> >
> >
> > --- John Wild <JWild@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > escribió:
> >
> > > Michael,
> > >
> > > The Type 1 has a M, X, V lever(M & X sync option
> > and
> > > V self timer with
> > > little lettered bumps) whereas Type 2 has only
> > self
> > > timer lever (no
> > > labeling) and standard X sync. I have both
> types.
> > I
> > > think the Type 1
> > > looks better, I like the little letters. ;-)
> > >
> > > Type 1 has Franke & Heidecke on the front lens
> > plate
> > > whereas Type 2 has
> > > ROLLEI-WERKE.
> > >
> > > Type 1 was available as the Rolleicopi, Phillips
> > > oscilloscope model with
> > > grey leather. This is the same as the standard
> > model
> > > except for the
> > > addition of the Rolleicopi focus screen raiser
> > which
> > > permitted focusing
> > > on the Polaroid back, the film plane of which
> was
> > > further from the lens
> > > plane due to the construction and attachment of
> > the
> > > film pack. The
> > > complete oscilloscope kit included the above in
> a
> > > fitted case and an
> > > oval 'trumpet' that connected the Rolleicord to
> an
> > > oscilloscope via both
> > > lenses so that the oscilloscope screen could be
> > > viewed and a photograph
> > > taken at the same time, together with different
> > > masks and film counters.
> > > A complete kit is quite rare. The grey
> Rolleicords
> > > and Rolleicopi
> > > spacers come up from time to time. They had
> > matching
> > > serial numbers but
> > > it is not often that they have been preserved as
> a
> > > set. I have a grey
> > > 'cord and managed to find a 'copi spacer and
> also
> > a
> > > Polaroid back but of
> > > course they all have different serial numbers.
> > Maybe
> > > we could publish
> > > our serial numbers and have a swapping session
> to
> > > try and re-match the
> > > sets. ;-)
> > >
> > > The 'copi spacer and Polaroid back do not look
> out
> > > of space on a grey
> > > 'T' although the leather colour and texture is
> > > slightly different
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > [mailto:rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> > Behalf
> > > Of Michiel Fokkema
> > > Sent: 02 September 2006 15:30
> > > To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [rollei_list] Re: Rolleicord IV
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Jeffery,
> > >
> > > I own two Vb's and will be selling one or maybe
> > both
> > > as soon as one of
> > > them is back from the CLA. I'm not sure if these
> > are
> > > the version 2. How
> > > can I tell?
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Michiel Fokkema
> > >
> > >
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