Oh, I know. I just felt like a numbskull trying to figure out what model it is. No problemo. I really appreciate your input. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: Jerry Lehrer To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 2:27 PM Subject: [rollei_list] Re: Rollei TL camera Jim It is a 2.8 E. I never implied that you were an idiot. I stated that I would have to be an idiot if I were to estimate its worth "in the dark". Jerry Jim Jensen wrote: Hi Jerry,I'm not trying to be an idiot. Okay, the serial number is 1646096.the zeiss lens serial number is Nr2263028. The serial number on the top lens is 777782. I don't see any D's, E's or E2's. Does that help?thanks,Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: Jerry Lehrer To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 1:55 PM Subject: [rollei_list] Re: Rollei TL camera Jim, No, there are other numbers on the camera. Even the Planar lens has a serial number. It could be a 2.8 D, E, or E2 Only an idiot would evaluate its worth based on the paucity of information that you have supplied. jerry Jim Jensen wrote: Hi,I have a Rolleiflex Twins-lens camera was originally my dad's. It has a Carl Zeiss Planar 2.8 80 mm lens. I know it's from the 40's or early 50's. It has the flash selector in the upper right hand corner (facing the camera). The only numbers I see on it are DBGM and DBP. Can you tell me what model it is and how much it is worth? It was completely cleaned and overhauled about 10 years ago. It's in excellent condition. Thanks for your help.Regards,Jim