Richard on a general level taking into account personal styles, I wouldn't say useless but I would say very limiting, making them a speacilist tool for certain types of photography static subjects and the like. And on a personal level depent upon my photographic preferences I would say yes USELESS. I also don't think the 35 is a great ergonomic design a thought echoed by Steven Gandy on the Camera Quest website. Thanks, Marvin. the second thing I would say is thatESS Sent via BlackBerry® from 3 -----Original Message----- From: "Richard Sintchak" <rich815@xxxxxxxxx> Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 19:51:22 To:rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [rollei_list] Re: Rollei 35S, SE So Marvin, any small 35mm camera that requires zone focus is pretty much useless in your opinion? On 9/30/07, marvin0@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <marvin0@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Thanks for the responses. Mark I wonder if we are on the same page here, I am > talking about the Petri Colour 35, which is a very high quality minature > camera, not the cheap mass produced models. > Carlos I have never seen a 35 used in any exacting work such as street > documentary, and that's what I think counts against the 35. Sure for static > subjects its OK, zone focus and all. > I really think that for the size of the camera the M3 with a collapsable 50mm > is infinitely better. The size differential is minimal. > In my opinion I think the 35 is an infexible tool. I agree with the post that > the Kodak Retina is also a good minature, they are excellent. > Thanks, > Marvin. > > Sent via BlackBerry(r) from 3 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Carlos Manuel Freaza <cmfreaza@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 21:33:25 > To:rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [rollei_list] Re: Rollei 35S, SE > > > --- marvin0@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > > >...Please note that they can only be > > realistically used with the lens closed down focused > > at distance. I have never seen one used with > > focusing other that stopped down.... > > The statement above is surprising to me, the focusing > is pretty easy to handle using the hyperfocal > distances, at 2m and 6m the DOF is very good even with > the lens wide open, this is a sample where you can see > working the hyperfocal, the foreground is very close > to the camera and I used a pretty wide f stop with the > artificial available light, the image is sharp from > the foreground to the background (you can enlarge the > image clicking the zoom): > http://www.flickr.com/photos/itarfoto/1456649900/ > > All the best > Carlos > > > > > Los referentes más importantes en compra/ venta de autos se juntaron: > Demotores y Yahoo! > Ahora comprar o vender tu auto es más fácil. Vistá ar.autos.yahoo.com/ > --- > Rollei List > > - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' > in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > > - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with > 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > > - Online, searchable archives are available at > //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list > > --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list