[rollei_list] Re: Retro: Back to the Past!
- From: Jerry Lehrer <jerryleh@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 09:30:18 -0700
Bob,
Then my Windows 3.1 (Pentium 1) with 64 meg of RAM and 1 gig
hard drive can't handle digital photography?
Jerry
Bob Shell wrote:
> On Thursday, August 11, 2005, at 12:50 AM, Ruben wrote:
>
> > First of all you need a newer version of Photoshop than the 5.0, pref.
> > the Photoshop CS, but not the CS2 as it slows thing down to much
> >
>
> Absolutely. Photoshop 5.0 is dark ages stuff. Photoshop 7 is about the
> oldest version that is well equipped.
>
> But even better, get a copy of Photoshop Elements 3.0 . It does most
> of the things Photoshop CS does, but is much simpler to learn, and
> under a hundred bucks.
>
> I just wrote a book on this, finished it in June. We talked a lot
> about which version of Photoshop to include in the book and we settled
> on Photoshop Elements 3.0. The book will be out in another month or
> so. It is called The Complete Idiot's Guide to Digital Photography,
> Fourth Edition. I think I'm a good teacher, and I think this book does
> a good job of teaching the important stuff in Photoshop Elements 3.0 .
>
> > Secondly you need to see if the scanner you have can provide a scan
> > worthvile using hours on in photoshop - make the best scan you can and
> > take it someone with some good graphic equipment and a large
> > calibrated monitor. Get a close look at the fole -- if the is only
> > noise etc. and no details in the shadows perhaps the scanner is your
> > main concern.
> >
>
> The scanner may well be more than half of the problem. It is difficult
> to get good scans from film on a flatbed unless it is one of the very
> high-end flatbeds. You almost have to have a dedicated film scanner to
> get really good results.
>
> > Back to photoshop - you need 1 gb ram in you machine and two hardisks
> > to run photoshop well - the second hardisk is so that you can avoid
> > using the harddisk were you photoshop programme is as a scratch disk.
> >
>
> I agree on the RAM. Two HDs is a good idea, or one big one with two
> partitions, which is what I did.
>
> Also, ditch the Windoze crap and get a real computer. We did a lot of
> soul searching and research on that book project and ended up deciding
> to base it on Mac. I have both Windoze and Mac computers, and would
> not dream of trying to run Photoshop on Windoze. They just don't like
> each other. The folks at Adobe all use Mac, and that should tell you
> something.
>
> > Even though I am only going to use a picture on screen or in the size
> > 5 x 8 I alwasy scan file sizes above 50-60 MB sometimes 120-180 MB
> > because it gives me more details to work with instead of pixels.
> >
>
> Yep. Scan at high res and resize down later if necessary.
>
> > some of the more basic things in photoretouching was explained on a
> > earlier version of photoshop extra CD with a guy from Adobe that
> > called him self the wacky professor of a Adope - cant remember his
> > name but when it pops up I will send it to you!
> >
> > If you were in my part of the world I would gladly give you a crash
> > coursen in Photoshop - I dont agree with the guys saing it is not
> > intuitive - you could teach me to do traditional enlargements in the
> > darkroom - would be great as I really suck when I try to use an
> > enlarger.
> >
>
> I also don't agree that it is not intuitive. I find Photoshop very
> easy and intuitive. It's only when you get into some of the more
> complex features that it becomes non-intuitive.
>
> > Dont let some beginners trouble put you down there are great
> > opportunities with Photoshop once you get the hang of it
>
> Yep. It's like giving up because your first roll of film didn't turn
> out well when you developed it. Most of us didn't do such a great job
> on that first roll.
>
> Bob
>
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