[rollei_list] Re: Print Exchange(what am I looking at?)
- From: "Jeff Kelley" <jlkphoto@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 16:24:05 -0700
Mark, I've used the Hahnemühle 308gsm Photo Rag on my ancient Epson 2000P
and it is as good or better than anything I've used on that printer for
matte B&W prints. The 2000P was Epson's first "archival" pigment ink
printer and I still use it for matte surface B&W printing. It wasn't clear
from Dennis' original post which of the photo rag papers were being used.
There are half a dozen inkjet "baryta" papers out now that purport to
emulate the papers from the wet darkroom. I've only tried the Harman so
far...it sure smells like "real" fiber silver gelatine photo paper even if
the prints are not quite the same....
Jeff
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 2:43 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > That is the current state of the art Epson printer, their newest
> > technology. Not sure the vintage of the photo rag, since there are a lot
> of
> > new ones that have just come out....
> >
> > Jeff
>
>
> I've used a lot of it its 100% rag paper state of the art NOT trying in any
> way to emulate the darkroom LOOK. It's what you'd expect a top art museum
> or
> gallery to order. People who know what's going on.
>
> Ironically to some while we'd always mat our darkroom prints on 100% rag
> board there never was a darkroom paper that was 100% rag there was always
> wood pulp in it.
>
> When coating a platinum or Palladium print you'd always have that option of
> course. The best water color papers made for hundreds of years.
> But not darkroom pre coated paper.
>
> Hahnemühle has been making such water color and now inkjet papers since the
> 15th century.
>
> They also made the paper the Germans used for counterfeit currency during
> WWII. So I have some Brit friends who have mixed feelings about the stuff.
>
> They have joined the band wagon now and using terms such as "Pearl
> surface".
> Which is what Ilford of course called their RC paper which very poorly
> emulated dried down fiber gloss paper.
> Now they try to emulate a bad emulation.
>
>
>
> ....................
> Mark William Rabiner
>
>
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