Here here! Any other method would be unethical. Its all the wrong approach, A Koni omega, 58mm lens so your up close and personal, then if they didn't hear the shutter go off, you can slam the film wind lever out and in which makes a noise very similar to putting another shotgun shell in the chamber with a pump action shot gun. That way its full disclosure and you are making it quite clear that you are taking a photograph and you don't care who knows. All the best, and practice your sprints LArry Cuffe --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list