> Marvin - > > There is absolutely no question that development makes an enormous > difference in the final print. AA wrote an entire book on the subject. > As improper souping can lead you anywhere from total latency to total > opacity, I would venture to say that this is a settled point. > > What I and others are asserting is that the difference between the > results produced by the developers mentioned are small, certainly in > the context of other factors. > > > Regards, > > Eric Goldstein I would disagree. And I don't have "Golden eyes" but up to this digital period I have printed in my darkroom every week (usually Thursday nights) for decades and my default has been 11x14's. Fridays were "print pick up day." for my clients. With proper development in well chosen developer and the right dilution, Pyro, Xtol, Beutlers, or perhaps non solvent developer but acutance developer can make a non favored film make far superior prints than a more favored film developed in a not so carful , average or shoddy manner. Like solvent developers straight or not diluted enough; especially in slow film. Where it gets melted right now to mush. These lists are comprised of people who tend to be much more comfortable with the gear than the practice of photography. And in some cases it seems they even seems they find the practice of photography threatening. I think if we had an interest in collecting unicorns we'd not find the glass blowers threatening and their craft. But then unicorn collectors don't find it necessary to call themselves craftsman. Photography is different. It seems impossible for people to enjoy camera collecting and buying and selling without having very strong attitudes about the practice of photography. A subject which they really when it comes done to it have almost no interest in. I've always found knowledge and practice much more satisfying than "attitude" and the false front I find so often with people on the camera lists. I do remember the days when didn't have a clue what I was doing. And "sometimes the magic happened" I say forget the "magic" and know what you're doing. [Rabs] Mark William Rabiner --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list