Thank you very much for your opinion and interesting info Richard, I'll see what happens tonight, I'll use the Microdol diluted 1:1. Carlos 2010/2/13 Richard Knoppow <dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>: > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "CarlosMFreaza" <cmfreaza@xxxxxxxxx> > To: <rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 6:01 AM > Subject: [rollei_list] Re: Plus X -PX 125- and Microdol X > > > 2010/2/12 Richard Knoppow >> >> I've had good results with Perceptol and T-Max. As far as I can tell >> Perceptol is identical to Microdol-X. > > I'll use now the Microdol X and Ilford Pan F 50 Plus film combo for > the first time and was looking for developing times and users > opinions. The Ilford Pan F 50 Plus technical sheet suggests identical > developing times for this film with Perceptol 1:1 and Microdol X 1:1 > at 20ºC, 15' ; developing times have a very slight difference for both > developers diluted 1:3, 17'and 18' and developing times for other > Ilford films using these two developers are consistently similar or > identical according the case, I think these are indications in the > direction you mentioned above. > The same technical sheet suggests solution B as the only option to > develop the Pan F 50 with HC 110 developer, however the developing > time is short too much: 4'. I had no good experiences using short > times due to uneven developing; the Rodinal Special developer (nothing > to do with the true Rodinal) was very active having short times, it > was good for photojournalism work but it's not so good for others > works. The page quoted yesterday about the HC 110 suggests:" The > solution? Try the unofficial dilution H which is half of dilution B, > and simply develop twice as long as for dilution B", perhaps it works. > > Carlos > --- > Very fine grain films probably benefit less from fine grain developers > than others but Pan-F should deliver extremely fine grain where the > developer is used full strength. Note that the extra-fine-grain property of > either Perceptol or Microdol-X is there only when the developer is used full > strength. At 1:3 both grain and film speed are similar to D-76 and there is > no advantage to the fine grain developers other than that they will give a > greater acutance effect than D-76. > Undiluted Microdol-X or Perceptol will cause about a 3/4 stop loss of > speed which should be compensated for in exposure. For Pan-F a speed setting > of about EI-25 should be right and yield extremely fine grain negatives with > good tonal rendition. However, there will be practically no adjacency > effects so no acutance effect. For the most part acutance effects are > desired by those using 35mm cameras to partly compensate for mushiness due > to the lens performance. If you have really good lenses the results will be > better without the acutance effect, which actually reduces resolution. I > find that using T-Max 100 with undiluted Perceptol gives me negatives which > are nearly as fine grain as I got from Technical Pan in Technidol. However > the speed is about four times greater and the tone rendition is better. > These negatives have a smoothness of tone rivaling that of larger negatives. > However, they do show up the faults in my Nikon-F lenses. The pictures are > sharp but not quite up to Rollei negatives or those from larger format > cameras. > Remember than the scale of adjacency effects is fixed so that they make > more difference for small negatives. For Rollei size they are noticable but > of less significance than for 35mm. For larger than about 2-1/4 x 2-1/4 they > are insignificant. > My recommendation is that Perceptol or Microdol-X be used where > extra-fine-grain is desired but some other developer be used for general > purpose development. > HC-110 and Ilford's equivalent, is convenient because of its ability to > be diluted to several strengths and very long shelf life, but is not an > optimum developer for any film. Probably Xtol comes closest to being a > universal "optimum" developer. Kodak seems to have tamed the problems Xtol > had and first so I would not hesitate to use it. > > -- > Richard Knoppow > Los Angeles, CA, USA > dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > --- > Rollei List > > - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the > subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > > - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the > subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > > - Online, searchable archives are available at > //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list > > --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list