I'm with Carlos on this one, I never thought it would work well but then found one cheap, got it, and find I really like it. I does not exactly replace using it the normal way, just another way that can often work out well, IMO. One interesting thing I have found: when using a camera and pointing it at someone people get self-conscious. However if you use a Rolleiflex with the pistol grip and "pan" with it people think you're using some old movie camera and for some reason just think you're a silly tourist and ignore you. So I'll often slowly "pan" my camera to give this impression and fire off the pistol grip at the moment of the framed shot I want. Funny little aspect in using this funky accessory. -- Richard S. San Francisco My Photography Website http://www.lightshadowandtone.com My Flickr River http://flickriver.com/photos/rich8155/popular-interesting/ My Commute Photo Blog http://shootingonthefly.blogspot.com/ On 12/7/08, Carlos Manuel Freaza <cmfreaza@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I disagree with you Mark. There is no a better way to shoot with the Rollei > TLR and automatic electronic flash than the Rollei Pistol grip; there is no a > better way to use the Rolleimeter and the secondory mirror and sportsfinder > than the Rolleigrip, there is no a better way to hold the camera over a lot > of heads around you and to shoot it than the Rollei Pistol grip. The pistol > grip was not a product of desperation, it was a product to allow a better use > for the secondary mirror, the flash unit and the sportsfinder for the > photographic situations where a higher camera point of view is necessary or > to use an electronic flash via a flash bracket attached to the Rollei grip. > > You can change the focusing distance with the Rolleigrip easily using the > left hand for the focusing knob and viewing the subject through the secondory > mirror and following it through the sposrtsfinder, even better using the > Rolleimeter 'cause you do both tasks via the sportsfinder only; to change the > exposure - the shutter speed is the real problem- again you can do it > crossing your left arm in front of the camera using the left hand to hold the > camera against your chest while you change the shutter speed with your right > hand or you can use your left index finger to change it. In general the > automatic flash use does not require to change the exposure after you > adjusted it. > BTW, I only use the Rollei pistol grip when I need it really: for action > shots, flash shots and Rolleimeter shots, these are two samples about the > Rollei Pistol grip use, the first one for flash and subject movement: > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/itarfoto/2899898894/ > > and this one to use Rolleimeter for focusing under low natural light: > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/itarfoto/344264153/ > > Carlos > > --- El dom 7-dic-08, Mark Rabiner <mark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> escribió: > > > De: Mark Rabiner <mark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > I would recommend against the Pistol Grip. > > Its a product of desperation not convenience or anything > > else. > > 35mm cameras were coming in. > > The pistol grip did not transform a twin lens Rolleiflex > > into a point and > > shoot. > > It just got your hands off the controls. > > Its best your thumbs are on the controls. The f stops and > > shutter speeds. > > Where they fall naturally if your are holding the camera > > the way it was > > designed to be held. In your hands. > > > > > > > > mark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Mark William Rabiner > > > > > > > > > From: Elias Roustom <eroustom@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > > Reply-To: <rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 22:01:12 -0500 > > > To: <rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > Subject: [rollei_list] Pistol Grip > > > > > > Does the pistol grip work with all models? I have a > > 2.8C, and I see > > > this grip on eBay: 150276206696 > > > > > > I've discovered how fast the Rolleimeter, a > > shutter release cable, > > > and a pistol grip can make picture taking with the TLR > > - of course > > > I'm using the grip from an old Bell & Howell > > 8mm movie camera. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Elias > > > --- > > > Rollei List > > > > > > - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with > > 'subscribe' > > > in the subject field OR by logging into > > www.freelists.org > > > > > > - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > with > > > 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by > > logging into www.freelists.org > > > > > > - Online, searchable archives are available at > > > //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list > > > > > > --- > > Rollei List > > > > - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with > > 'subscribe' > > in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > > > > - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with > > 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging > > into www.freelists.org > > > > - Online, searchable archives are available at > > //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list > > > Yahoo! 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