In a message dated 9/12/2006 5:22:26 PM Central Standard Time, iusar4s@xxxxxxxx writes: Are the new ones THAT much better than the old ones? Is an M8 THAT much better than my M2? Is the latest whatever that much better than my CordVb or my Automats...? I think there's a lotta marketing and only marginal substance..... Peter Nebergall All I know is that most of my shooting is with a Nikon D2x, but I just took the best picture I've ever made of my son with a Rollei SL66e. Class will tell. LJ