[rollei_list] Re: OT: development
- From: Jerry Lehrer <jerryleh@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 23:00:26 -0700
Richard
I remember on certain films we used a formalin bath
to harden the very soft emulsion. As I recall, it was
on some sheet films. This was in the 1940's. The
darkroom smelled like a mortuary!
Jerry
Richard Knoppow wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Allen Zak" <azak@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 8:36 PM
> Subject: [rollei_list] Re: OT: development
>
> > In 50 years of photography I have not once experienced
> > emulsion damage
> > from using non-hardening fixers.
> >
> > Allen Zak
> >
> I doubt if many if any current materials need hardener.
> The standard hardening fixing baths like Kodak F-5
> (essentially the packaged Kodak fixer) originated in the
> mid-1930s when emulsions were very soft compared to modern
> materials. In fact, up to about 1939 the standard processing
> temperature was 65F. It was raised to 68F after that because
> some method of improving hardening was applied. I think we
> use hardening fixer mostly because of tradition.
> Auxilliary hardener is included in some color processes
> which operate at very high temperatures and are necessary
> for some special processes like monobaths, which are very
> high in pH, but I agree that in general one could do without
> hardener and suffer no consequences.
> OTOH, if a wash aid is used the hardener does no harm and
> may cause film to dry faster (less absorbed moisture due to
> less swelling).
>
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> Richard Knoppow
> Los Angeles, CA, USA
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