At 02:58 PM 9/24/05 -0700, Jerry Lehrer wrote: >Marc, > >What was the Leitz part number or code word for that? Jerry Leitz didn't sell these; JSK marketed them. The Fair Trade Laws of the 1940's and 1950's allowed a manufacturer to set the price of a kit if it was sold entirely with factory materials. Thus, Leitz could fix the price charged by, say, Peerless or Willoughby or Central Camera when these places sold it with a Leitz lens. But Leitz could not fix the price when the camera body was sold with a Schneider or Zeiss or Cooke lens and the fiscal interest in pushing these discount sales was significant. Look at the camera magazines of the era for examples of this. Zeiss lenses were not marketed actively after the War but dozens of other houses stepped in, and there was always a hunger for more given the popularity of Leica C and F bodies. For instance, when the Bell & Howell Foton died an early death, the remaining Cooke Amotal lenses were purchased by either Peerless or Willoughy (they were jointly owned at that time, so the records are a bit murky) and shipped off to Italy to be remounted in an amazingly crude but workable coupled LTM. Rodenstock, Staeble, Voigtländer, Steinheil, and many others joined in the feeding frenzy and, of course, by the early 1950's a slew of Japanese, Italian, and Soviet lenses were tossed into the pool as well. Zeiss Ikon was then run in the US by Dr Bauer, the fellow who began the process which led to the development by Smakula of lens coatings. Under the Alien Properties Act of 1942, Carl Zeiss USA (and, of course, Ernst Leitz NY) had been taken over by the US government. Leitz managed to remain fairly well tied to Leitz in Wetzlar and toed the party line in the eight or nine years before they were repurchased, ultimately, by Leitz. Carl Zeiss USA, however, remained US property until 1960 and Dr Bauer played really fast and loose with the rules the German firm attempted to impose -- for instance, he did not attempt to control selling prices on Zeiss Ikon cameras and aggressively imported East German gear as well including the Contax S and D lines and the Praktica cameras to the furty of the mavens of Stuttgart. ELNY was never a huge commercial success but Carl Zeiss USA boomed, and the US government viewed it as a cash cow. They knew that Bauer was going to get the axe as soon as they allowed the Zeiss Foundation to repurchase the US branch, so they held onto it until Dr Bauer qualifed for retirement under German law, and then returned it, for a tidy sum, to German control, Dr Bauer moving off, I recall, to Arizona. As a result of this, there was never the demand for Contax RF BM aftermarket lenses but, even so, more than a few firms marketed these; the Cook Amotal and Voigtländer Nokton in this mount are quite rare but not unknown. Marc msmall@xxxxxxxxxxxx Cha robh bàs fir gun ghràs fir! NEW FAX NUMBER: +540-343-8505 --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list