As a newcomer to the list I would also like to point out that conversation relating to the "special text" is intriguing in its banality, and does not help one in the quest to prove that Planars are better than Xenotars. Best Regards, Marvin Wallace, Hong Kong (NPOCSTHAETWDTU) now part of China soon to have an economy that will dwarf the USians. _____ http://www.eset.com