[rollei_list] Re: OT: Vinyl and CD's
- From: "Peter K." <peterk727@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 07:49:35 -0800
ROFLOL.
On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 7:43 AM, Eric Goldstein <egoldste@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi Peter -
>
> My hero is Thor! ;-)
>
>
> Eric Goldstein
>
> --
>
> On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 10:40 AM, Peter K. <peterk727@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > arguable Marc. No pops and crackles on a CD. And smaller to store and I
> can
> > play it in a car. But as we age we cannot hear "quality" as we once did.
> So
> > whether vinyl is better we cannot really hear it. (Waiting for Eric to
> > comment here. :-))
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 6:46 PM, Marc James Small <marcsmall@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> At 09:27 PM 3/3/2009, Robert Lilley wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Actually, yes Peter I own and regularly play a Victoria VV VI. The
> >>> acoustic fidelity is quite good.
> >>>
> >>> It is interesting to note why vinyl LPs disappeared rapidly during the
> >>> mid 80's. It wasn't because CD were better. They were not. It
> wasn't
> >>> because vinyl was an old, outdated media. It is argued that like film
> vs.
> >>> digital pictures, vinyl LP's have more data than the average CD and
> >>> certainly more than MP3 files. It was because LP's cost more to
> produce
> >>> than CDs and the record industry found they could make more money
> selling
> >>> CDs. What the industry did was to refuse unsold LP returns while
> allowing
> >>> returns of CDs. Seemingly overnight, the record stores switched over
> to CDs
> >>> and vinyl was relegated to those like myself who remember how good
> music
> >>> used to sound.
> >>>
> >>> Its not how much better something is that causes change - its how much
> >>> money somebody can make if it does.
> >>
> >> That is perhaps a marginal stretch but not totally untrue. I am
> speaking
> >> as a guy who invested in a really nice linear-tracking turntable in
> 1985.
> >> Still have it, and it still works great. Never have had to replace the
> >> cartridge or needle. It just keeps on keeping on. But it was expired
> >> technology when I bought it, though I did not realize that, anymore than
> the
> >> folks buying the current production of 2.8FX's realize that they are
> buying
> >> "expired technology".
> >>
> >> CD's won primarily because of convenience and the reality that, with
> >> electronic gear, prices plummet as volume goes up. By 1989, a quality
> CD
> >> player cost substantially less than did a turntable, and was a hell of a
> lot
> >> easier to use. That was the prime reason.
> >>
> >> The second reason is one to which you speak. Small recording studios
> were
> >> able to get into a vast archive of older music -- rock-'n'- roll,
> country,
> >> classical, jazz, blue grass, ethnic, and remaster it and then produce it
> on
> >> CD's you could buy for $6.99. I used to pay $15 or more for a 45-rpm
> from
> >> 1960 but, by 1980, I could find the tune on SMASH HITS OF 1960 from
> K-Tel or
> >> Groove Records or whoever.
> >>
> >> Still, a quality vinyl album on a quality turntable and amp and system
> >> will give you a much richer sound with vastly greater frequency response
> >> than will the best commercial CD rig. I do not have the ear to
> appreciate
> >> this save in a few quiet places -- on vinyl, you can sometimes hear the
> >> musicians flipping over their scores during a pause, and that sort of
> detail
> >> just is absent from CD.
> >>
> >> This is much like film versus digital. Digital is convenient but, for
> >> years to come, film will produce better quality even if we are not
> capable
> >> of recognizing the distinction. But, to me, it is important that I am
> >> producing something that is the very best possible.
> >>
> >> Marc
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> msmall@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Cha robh bàs fir gun ghràs fir!
> >>
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