2010/9/6 Marc James Small > > Hysteron Proteron, Carlos. The Jena Contax was made at Jena: we have NY > TIMES photographs of its production there -- we even have one picture of a > Zeiss employee assembling one with a KIEV nameplate. There was a small lens > run at Saalfeld -- some of which are in a grey finish -- but a lot of lens > production, and perhaps some camera production, was at Coburg. (Saalfeld > and Coburg and Eisfeld and Munich and a few others were all branch factories > of the main CZJ works.) Marc: According a 2001 article " After Dresden: the migration of the Contax to Jena and Kiev" written by Larry Gubas for the Zeiss Historica Society and shown in the official Zeiss Historica web page, the "Jena cameras" were made at Saalfeld and the _associated lenses_ and accesories could be made there too : "... The documents state that the production line was not in Jena proper but rather in Saalfeld which is about an hour's drive from Jena. This would be the site where the Werra cameras from VEB Carl Zeiss Jena would later be manufactured. It would seem that the Jena Contax, associated lenses and accessories were all manufactured there. It is my strong certainly that it is these Contax cameras from this pre-Kiev production in Saalfeld were to become known as the Jena Contax. (See C. Barringer's article from Spring 1999.)..." http://www.zeisshistorica.org/sample.html Peter Hennig from the Zeiss Historica in the article/web page I quoted in my previous post shows the photograph you mentioned about the Kiev camera being assembled at a Carl Zeiss factory in East Germany. I agree with you about the prewar and wartime coated lenses, if CZ Jena was coating lenses in 1946/47 regularly it means they were doing it from some time ago. I also agree about British and F&H. Russians did not want a RF Contax and RF Kiev simultaneously and then the Contax S was developed in East Germany on the basis of some previous projects, afterward DDR no longer could use the brand name "Contax" and the "Pentacon Dresden" (PENTAprism CONtax) was established as a sort of communist "Zeiss Ikon" in Dresden again, first during 1959 like "Volkseigener Betrieb Kamera- und Kinowerke Dresden" and like "Pentacon Dresden" in 1964 . Thank you very much for the invitation about the Zeiss Historica, I was thinking about it really. Carlos --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list