[rollei_list] Re: OT: PAYPAL
- From: "iusar4s@xxxxxxxx" <iusar4s@xxxxxxxx>
- To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 23:13:33 GMT
Paypal is the "pal" of pirates, thieves, fraudsters and felons. THEY are
protected; you are not. Once a thief gets or falsifies details, they have no
interest in YOU.
PJN
---------- Original Message ----------
From: Binjassim <tyco@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [rollei_list] Re: OT: PAYPAL
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 07:39:51 +0300
Hello, Everybody:
Last year I was asked by PAYPAL for my bank refence, and I offered them my
local bank details, in Qatar - I work in the middle east - but they insisted
on my UK bank address - where my credit card is issued and where I have my
purchases shipped.When I refused, they cancelled my paypal account. I dealt
with paypal for over a year and thousands of dollars in transactions.
For sometime after that I paid directly to those who would agree to the
transaction.
I was surprised at some US sellers refusing to accept WESTERN UNION payment
in ADVANCE of shipment. I am very wary of sending credit card information by
email.
Only once did I lose my bet on the honesty of the ebay advertisers.
Strangely enough, for several months afterwards Paypal would send me notices
of people attempting to use my account, and some such rubbish. I have never
made an Ebay purchase since, mostly because of paypal.
Goodwishes to all, John
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jan Decher" <Jan.Decher@xxxxxxx>
To: <rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 4:08 PM
Subject: [rollei_list] OT: 1st real EBAY trouble in 10+ years...
> Austin,
> thanks for sharing your experience. I do have proof of shipping
> which my PO already verified, but not delivery. PayPal also knows the
> item left the US. It seems to me if I have proof of shipping the
> item they should not be able to chargeback the funds I was paid, but
> the buyer should get his $$ back via the shipping insurance. But
> what do I know...
>
> If the buyer actually received the item, he is very good at faking
> grief / upset over loss. But I don't wan't to assume that ("in dubio
> pro reo" etc.). He is communicating profusely and, it seems, just
> impatient.
>
> This will change how, or if, I ship to China again.
>
> All this said my experience with EBAY/PayPal has been 98% positive
> over the last 10 years. But fees are becoming prohibitive and it's
> time they got some sophisticated competition.
> Jan
>
> On Mar 17, 2010, at 1:06 AM, FreeLists Mailing List Manager wrote:
>> From: "Austin Franklin" <austin.franklin@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> ...
>> You will have your shipping refunded in the USPS claim, if they
>> honor it.
>> Can you show proof of delivery? You're required to provide some
>> form of
>> proof of delivery for eBay/PayPal to honor seller protection, but
>> if the
>> item was simply not delivered, then you have to file claim with the
>> shipper.
>> Priority to HK can take a while. You used to be able to put a
>> "tracer" on a
>> package, you may want to check with USPS about that.
>> ...
>> Best Regards,
>> Austin
>
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