At 03:02 PM 3/23/2008, Robert Lilley wrote: >As for us, well, we are Episcopalians who continued down the path of >expediency and higher biblical criticism so far that we've become just= plain >old liberal human secularists. Hmm. The ECUSA (Episcopal Church in the US of A)=20 has lost 2/3 of its membership over the past=20 forty years. Most of those drifting away well,=20 just drifted. Some did become Catholic or=20 Orthodox or Baptist or, probably, Ba'hai, but,=20 for the most part, most folks just drifted off in=20 refusal to accept the meaningless and rushed=20 changes forced on the liturgy and hierarchy of=20 the Church and most have just been sitting around rather dazed by it all. Every decade or so I try to reconnect with the=20 ECUSA but always find the experience rather=20 unfulfilling. When I can find a Church which=20 runs a Rite I 8:00 AM service on a Sunday, I=20 might well be there, or for the imposition of=20 ashes on Ash Wednesday, or the like but, for the=20 most part, I tend to say my private prayers and=20 restrict my Church attendance to occasions when I=20 feel a need to have the Sacrament administered by=20 someone who is in Holy Orders within a Church=20 which has maintained the Apostolic Succession,=20 regardless of the Priest's political and social bent. Two dioceses in the ECUSA are leaving the=20 Church. One has already done so and everything=20 save for Excommunication has poured out of=20 ECUSA. The other is being more stately in its=20 exit, and this is my old Dioceses, that of=20 Western Pennsylvania, in the Cathedral of which I=20 used to be a choirboy, back in the=20 Longago. Right on, Brothers! (One of our List=20 members occasionally subs in my old Church,=20 Trinity Cathedral, as an organist. The=20 Presbyterians next door ALWAYS sing louder but,=20 then, one of the defining marks of being an=20 Anglican is an inability to sing with much=20 volume! Even Samuel Gelbfisz, of MGM, once=20 bounced a picture which included a scene set in=20 an Episcopal Church where the congregation was=20 singing lustily: "Jews intone, Catholics chant,=20 and Baptists, now the Baptists sing. But=20 Episcopalians? They mouth the words.") Marc msmall@xxxxxxxxxxxx Cha robh b=E0s fir gun ghr=E0s fir! --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list