[rollei_list] Re: OT Ancient Computers (was Re: Re: Rollei -Singapore) now analogue versus digital
- From: Carlos Manuel Freaza <cmfreaza@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 11:55:01 -0800 (PST)
Frank, I really can't imagine the way you use your film cameras to obtain those
conclusions.
Films have personality; DSLRs don't. While many DSLRs let you dial in higher or
lower saturation and contrast, those crude adjustments can't compare to the
richness of film, whether Velvia's crisp, saturated look or the delicate tonal
shoulder of Tri-X. (Black-and-white is a particular challenge for digital,
especially in-camera.)
Film can be manipulated to soak up even more of a scene's tonal extremes. You
can rein in highlights by "pulling," or shortening, the development of b&w
film. You compensate for this by adding exposure when shooting, improving
shadow detail. You can overexpose color negative film by as much as four stops
to increase shadow detail and reduce contrast, without damaging highlight
nuances.
Some super-duper digital backs claim to match or exceed the range captured by
film. If you can afford them, go for it -- and bring along your laptop.
You can sharpen a digital image in software. And with most DSLRs you must,
because images are considerably softened by anti-aliasing filters that keep
their sensors from recording jagged edges and moiré patterns. Yet if you overdo
your sharpening, the image can take on a distractingly "crispy" appearance. The
sharpness you get from film is more natural looking.
(Some parts above were taken from a Pop Photo article by Russell Hart)
Digital is very practical to use for a lot of situations and well balanced
images look very nice in the monitor screens, but most of them don't show the
detail richness and tones subtleties you can obtain from a neg or slide for
prints, magazines, projection, books etc. and I'm talking about a 35mm format.
Carlos
--- El lun 12-ene-09, Frank Dernie <Frank.Dernie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> escribió:
>> If you shoot large format that can be true. For medium
> format or what used to be called "miniature
> format" when I started photography this is not true.
> The only film parameter which has the potential be better
> than digital is -perhaps- resolution, but only very slow
> black and white films in ideal exposure conditions.
> In all other respects digital is superior - in my
> experience.
> My Rolleiflex 6008i is not capable of producing colour
> pictures to match those from several of my digital cameras.
> 35mm has been behind for years.
> I am not aware of -anybody- with in depth experience of
> both who would agree with you.
> Perhaps I am going to get the first convincing information
> as a result of this email!
> best regards,
> Frank
>
> I am comparing Velvia, Provia, Kodachrome in Canon, Leica,
> Rollei and Mamiya film cameras (up to 6x7cm) with digital
> from Leica M8, Canon EOS 1Ds mk2 and Nikon D3. Most recently
> I have been trying a Nikon D3x but have not formed any
> conclusions yet since I have not shot with it enough.
>
>
>
>
> On 12 Jan, 2009, at 16:13, Carlos Manuel Freaza wrote:
>
> > --- El lun 12-ene-09, Frank Dernie
> <Frank.Dernie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> escribió:
> >
> >> In all practical ways digital has exceeded the
> capability
> >> of film for some time. Certainly if there is an
> effect which
> >> one wishes to achieve, using a vintage LF lens for
> example,
> >> film may have to be the choice but that does not
> make film
> >> better, just an appropriate choice in some
> circumstances.
> >
> > Film is the best choice when you need the highest
> image quality.-
> >
> > Carlos
> >
> >
> >
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