I shot Velvia, Provia and Astia in my film camera days. All obviously have an engineered colour balance to suit their particular customer. This can easily be lost when scanning if one is not careful.
Frank On 12 Jan, 2009, at 20:22, Carlos Manuel Freaza wrote:
According my info, C-41 and E-6 processes labs are still distributed in the States widely, and according my experience, a well scanned film can reflect in the digital file its personality, f.e.I can see it scanning an Astia slide or a Velvia slide; monitor screens are not favorable for digitallized film images in general, however they work very well for other means.-Carlos--- El lun 12-ene-09, Robert Lilley <54moggie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> escribió:De: Robert Lilley <54moggie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Asunto: [rollei_list] Re: OT Ancient Computers (was Re: Re: Rollei - Singapore) now analogue versus digitalPara: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Fecha: lunes, 12 de enero de 2009, 5:05 pm Who would know? Every color picture* I see today, both on and off the computer is a digital representation. I have not seen a color print from a wet process in years! Rob On Jan 12, 2009, at 2:55 PM, Carlos Manuel Freaza wrote:Frank, I really can't imagine the way you use yourfilm cameras to obtain those conclusions.Films have personality; DSLRs don't. While manyDSLRs let you dial in higher or lower saturation and contrast, those crude adjustments can't compare to the richness of film, whether Velvia's crisp, saturated look or the delicate tonal shoulder of Tri-X. (Black-and-white is a particular challenge for digital, especially in-camera.)Film can be manipulated to soak up even more of ascene's tonal extremes. You can rein in highlights by "pulling," or shortening, the development of b&w film. You compensate for this by adding exposure when shooting, improving shadow detail. You can overexpose color negative film by as much as four stops to increase shadow detail and reduce contrast, without damaging highlight nuances.Some super-duper digital backs claim to match orexceed the range captured by film. If you can afford them, go for it -- and bring along your laptop.You can sharpen a digital image in software. And withmost DSLRs you must, because images are considerably softened by anti-aliasing filters that keep their sensors from recording jagged edges and moiré patterns. Yet if you overdo your sharpening, the image can take on a distractingly "crispy" appearance. The sharpness you get from film is more natural looking.(Some parts above were taken from a Pop Photo articleby Russell Hart)Digital is very practical to use for a lot ofsituations and well balanced images look very nice in the monitor screens, but most of them don't show the detail richness and tones subtleties you can obtain from a neg or slide for prints, magazines, projection, books etc. and I'm talking about a 35mm format.Carlos --- El lun 12-ene-09, Frank Dernie<Frank.Dernie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> escribió:If you shoot large format that can be true.For mediumformat or what used to be called "miniature format" when I started photography this isnot true.The only film parameter which has the potential bebetterthan digital is -perhaps- resolution, but onlyvery slowblack and white films in ideal exposureconditions.In all other respects digital is superior - in my experience. My Rolleiflex 6008i is not capable of producingcolourpictures to match those from several of my digitalcameras.35mm has been behind for years. I am not aware of -anybody- with in depthexperience ofboth who would agree with you. Perhaps I am going to get the first convincinginformationas a result of this email! best regards, Frank I am comparing Velvia, Provia, Kodachrome inCanon, Leica,Rollei and Mamiya film cameras (up to 6x7cm) withdigitalfrom Leica M8, Canon EOS 1Ds mk2 and Nikon D3.Most recentlyI have been trying a Nikon D3x but have not formedanyconclusions yet since I have not shot with itenough.On 12 Jan, 2009, at 16:13, Carlos Manuel Freazawrote:--- El lun 12-ene-09, Frank Dernie<Frank.Dernie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> escribió:In all practical ways digital has exceededthecapabilityof film for some time. Certainly if thereis aneffect whichone wishes to achieve, using a vintage LFlens forexample,film may have to be the choice but thatdoes notmake filmbetter, just an appropriate choice in somecircumstances.Film is the best choice when you need thehighestimage quality.-Carlos Yahoo! 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